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                    <text>LOGAN .CANYON ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY
MINUTES OF ID TEAM MEETING
March 9, 1987
Attendance:
Gale Larson - Valley Engineering
Clark Ostergarrd, USFS
John Neil, UDOT
Larry England, USFWS
Jim Naegle, UDOT
Duncan Silver, FHWA
Cliff Forsgren, CH2M HILL
Stan Nuffer, CH2M HILL
Fred LaBar, USFS
Lynn Zollinger, UDOT
Steve Flint, Audobon Society
Jack Spence, Sierra Club
Howard Richardson, UDOT
ITEM 1 - REVIEW OF MINUTES
There was only one correction to the minutes of the previous \
meeting.
Jack Spence had pointed out that a linear model of 1 0
the past trends traffic projection might be preferable to an
exponential model because the standard deviation of the extrapolation was better in the linear model, not the r2 value as
reported.
ITEM 2 - JOHN L. ENGLAND, U. S. FTSH AND vlILDLIFE ' SERVICE
COMMENTS
John L. England (Larry) discussed the ~laguire Primrose and
the FWS interest in Logan Canyon.
In summary his comments
inpluded:
o

The latest status report on the Maguire Primrose
prepared by the Utah Native Plant Society is
probably as good a source of current information
as there is presently available.

o

The FWS has requested to be a cooperating agency
in this study.

o

The Maguire Primrose exists only in the lower end
of Logan Canyon, from Wood Camp to the mouth of
the Canyon and it is currently on the "threatened"
species list. A threatened species receives the
same protection, under law, as does an endangered
species.

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It is possible that some of the alternatives could
impact one or more known populations.

o

It will be necessary to prepare a biological assessment for FWS review.

o

The Maguire Primrose is apparently sensitive to
temperature increases and soil type.
Some types
of improvements could alter cold air drainage
pattern or remove trees that presently provide
shelter.

o

The only population of Maguire Primrose the FWS is
concerned about (based upon present alternatives)
is near Wood Camp.

o

The basic alternative descriptions include a turnout near Wood Camp. Larry indicated that it might
be better to consider some widening at that point
and eliminate the turnout in order to keep the
traffic moving and away from a sensitive
population.

o

He would recommend preserving as much vegetation
as possible.

Steve Flint asked about two other species that had been
listed in a letter to CH2M HILL. Larry indicated that there
were two species presently under review in the Canyon.
Stan Nuffer asked if there were guidlines for preparing biological assessments. Larry named some people who had prepared these assessments. They were Stanley Welsh, a botany
professor at BYU and Leila Shultz, the Intermountain
Herbarium Curator.
ITEM 3 - DISCUSS RESULTS OF SCOPING MEETINGS
Stan asked members of the ID Team to give their impressions
of the scoping meetings that were held on March 3 and 4.
o

Duncan Silver felt that after the comment period
there should be a "roundtable" meeting with government agencies. He did not feel that those representing agencies gave all of the input that they
could or should. Overall Duncan did not feel that
there were any new issues or alternatives brought
out.

o

Lynn Zollinger did not feel that there were any
new issues brought out, but he would like to review
a copy of the transcript to be sure.
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a

Jim Naegle feit that there were some alternatives
brought out during the meetings but felt that they
were probably covered in the general alternative
descriptions.

o

Howard Richardson wondered if there was some value
in one comment about getting a "true cross-section"
of opinion from area citizens. After some discussion about the value (and purpose of) polls, it
was decided that the purpose of scoping meetings
were not to "take a vote" but to be sure the full
range of issues and possible alternatives were
addressed in the study. Those who are interested
will generally make their views known.

a

Fred LaBar did not think that there were any new
alternatives brought up in the meetings.
However,
he did pOlnt out that alternative routes had been
brought up in two of the meetings and that a
scientific survey (opinion) should be addressed in
the EIS. Fred also asked if it was true that it
is the law in Utah that slow moving vehicles with
traffic behind them must pull off. Duncan Silver
said that it is now the law in Utah and that he is
, o'n a committee wi th UDOT that is working on a
system to provide better advance warning of
passing lanes and turnouts.
There should be some
information available in time to include in the
report.

'0

Clark Ostergarrd pointed out that the Citizens for
the Preservation of Logan Canyon (CPLC) had presented eight specific recommendations for spot
improvements and requested that they be given
consideration in the study. The eight recommendationsappear to be included in the general
list of spot improvements already identified.
Steve Flint felt that it was important that people
understand that each spot improvement is to be
considered on its own merits and that it is not an
"all or nothing" alternative.
If this is the
approach, the CPLC recommendations would be
considered along with other spot improvements and
the best would be included in the final "spot
improvement" alternative.
Clark also pointed out that some people had suggested that the highway be planned and designed as
a "scenic highway".
There was some discussion
about standards for scenic highways. Jack Spence
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asked if there is a separate standard for scenic
highways. Duncan Silver indicated that there were
none.
"Standards" for a given scenic road have
more or less evolved and generally just address
the local situation. Using National Park Service
standards was also discussed.
Duncan Silver pointed out that truck routes have
been designated throughout the US. This was mandated by Congress because of the number of states
~
that had placed limitations on through roads, that -C ~~~)r~eJ
was adversely attecting interstate commerce. US-89
through Logan Canyon has apparently been designated /~ I
as a truck route. Continued use of the Canyon by ---- ~
truck traffic should be addressed in the study.
0
o

Jim Naegle pointed out that a "standard" for Logan
Canyon will have to be one that will fit the conditions and still allow the traffic to flow as
smoothly as possible.

o

Lynn Zollinger said that any "standard" less than
the modified one may not give enough added
capacity to the roadway to make it worthwhile.
Any proposed "standard" for the Canyon should be
evaluated on its ability to improve the flow of
traffic as well as its impact on the environment.
Lynn also asked if anyone was anticipating an
increase in traffic because of the scenic highway
designation.
Stan pointed out that other states
are being contacted in an effort to determine
what, if any, impact a scenic highway designation
might have on traffic volumes.
Lynn also pointed out that UDOT has been
approached by the local cattleman's association
about the possibility of fencing the road in the
area where cattle range.
There is concern about
the number of animals killed on the road. A
fencing project would require both Forest Service
and private participation.

o

Jack Spence indicated that some hunters had expressed concern to him that an increase in speed
might also increase the number of deer killed on
the road.
Howard Richardson said that the experience of UDOT has been that, besides speed, it is
important to keep the vegetation back away from
the road so that motorists can better see deer as
they approach the road.
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o

Steve Flint observed that there were still some
people who did not understand the purpose of the
scoping meetings and some still believed that a
4-lane roadway alternative was being considered.
Steve also restated the need to have a mechanism
for sorting out spot improvements and evaluating
their impacts individually.

o

There was some general discussion on the notification of government agencies.
Duncan suggested
that a copy of the letter which was sent to
agencies be attached to the minutes of this
meeting when it is mailed to team members.

ITEM 4 - EXPANSION OF THE l.D.TEAM
Stan Nuffer told the team that there had been some suggestions
made during the scoping meetings that interests from Rich
County be included on the 1.0. Team. -The Mayor of Logan had
also expressed some interest about having a broader
representation on the team. After some discussion it was
concluded that the team was primarily dealing with technical
issues and that the "technical interests" were represented.
- Fred LaBar thought that the biggest problem in Rich County
was the lack of information.
There · is n~ local newspaper
and most people do not take the Herald Journal so there is
no local vehicle for getting information out.
It was
decided to invite both the. Rich County people and Logan
people to attend I. D. Team meetings t .O see how they operate,
but there was not much to be gained by adding additional
members to the team.
There will be a work meeting with the
Logan City Council (tentatively scheduled for March 19) and
any team member who can attend is encourqged to do so.
ITEM 5 - DAY-LONG SESSION IN THE CANYON TO DEFINE ALTERNATIVES
There was some discussion on the value of spending some time
in the Canyon and defining the alternatives on the ground.
Most team members were supportive of the idea but felt that
some time was needed to study what had been done on large
scale maps.
Stan will have the information put on 1"=200' maps and copies made for the next meeting. A session in the
Canyon will be scheduled at that time.
ITEM 6 - TRAFFIC PROJECTIONS
There was some brief discussion on the traffic projections.
Cliff Forsgren said that calculations, assumptions and methodologies for projecting traffic and estimating highway
capacity were being double checked and more information would
be forthcoming.
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l~EMORANDUM

TO:

Interdisciplinary Team

FROt&gt;1 :

Stan Nuffer

DATE:

April 29, 1987

SUBJECT:

Logan Canyon Environmental Study

PROJECT:

B21163.FO

The twentieth Interdisciplinary Team Meeting was held on
April 20, 1987, at 7:00 p.m. at the Forest Service District
office in Logan, Utah. This meeting was followed by a daylong field trip in the canyon on April 21. Enclosed are the
minutes for your review. Also attached 'for review is the
Technical Memorandum on noise prepared by John Neil of UDOT.
The next meeting will be held on Monday, May 4, 1987, at
3:00 p.m. at the UDOT District office in Ogden, Utah. The
agenda will be as follows:
1.

Review minutes of April 20 and 21 meetings.

2.

Discussion of the existing conditions portion of the
socio-economic technical memorandum.

3.

Discussion on spot improvement alternative.

4.

Review of the noise technical memorandum by John Neil.

5.

Wrap-up discussion of traffic projections.

Future meeting schedule:
May 27
June 27
SLC99/d.1901

- 3:00 p.m., District Office
- 3:00 p.m., Brigham City

�LOGAN CANYON ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY
MINUTES OF ID TEAM MEETING
April 20, 1987
Attendance:
Arlo Waddops- Valley Engineering
Howard Richardson - UDOT
Lynn Zollinger - UDOT
Duncan Silver - FHWA
Clark Ostergarrd - USFS
Fred LaBar - USFS
Mark Shaw - USFS
John Wise, Herald Journal
Steve Flint - Audobon Society
Jack Spence - Utah Wilderness Society
Bill Helm Cliff Forsgren, CH2M HILL
Stan Nuffer, CH2M .HILL

ITEM 2 - REVIEW OF TRAFFIC FORECASTS
Cliff Forsgren reviewed a memo he had prepared that dis- .
cussed . forecast traffic volumes using annual data from 1940
through 1985 and population data for the same period. Two
forecasting methods were discussed, the "past trends" and
"population correlation" methods. Jack Spence indicated,
that based upon the data he had seen, a linear function describing past trends was. probably as good as we were going
to get using that method. He suggested that population and
traffic be compared to see what kind of correlation, if any,
could be established.
If there is a reasonable correlation
between population and traffic volume, the forecast will be
used with past trends forecast to establish a range that
future traffic is expected to fall within. Cliff will prepare some correlation comparisons for the team to consider.
ITEM 3 - REVIEW OF SCOPING COMMENTS
Stan Nuffer distributed summaries of the comments made at
the scoping meetings and a partial summary of the written
comments received. Duncan Silver pointed out that the number
of people who commented on a specific issue was not as important as the fact that the issue was raised. For that
reason, the most important part of the summary was the table
column headings that named the issues raised. Jack Spence
pointed out that big game was an issue that had been raised

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�MINUTES
INTERDISCIPLINARY TEAM FIELD TRIP
APRIL 21, 1987
Attendance:
Jim Naegle, UDOT
John Neil, UDOT
Howard Richardson, UDOT
Lynn Zollinger, UDOT
Fred LaBar, USFS
Mark Shaw, USFS
Richard Harris, USFS
Duncan Silver FHWA

Stan Nuffer, CH2M HILL
Cliff Forsgren, CH2M HILL
Arlo Waddups, Valley Engineers
Jack Spence, Sierra Club
Steve Flint, Audubon
Bill Helm
Tom Lyon
John Ellsworth

The team met at 8:00 a.m. at the F.S. District Ranger's office.
Transportation for the field trip was in two vans provided
by UDOT. Weather conditions for the trip were ideal.
Stop No.1 was at Lower Canyon M.P. 382.8 to consider the
possibility of a slow vehicle turnout prior to the beginning
of the study area. A slow vehicle turnout in this location
would be marginal due to the curvature in the roadway and
the limited s~ght distance back along the roadway.
Stop No.2 was at M.P. 384.0, or curve No.5 which is the
first sharp curve encountered in the study section. Valley
Engineering had previously marked the location of the centerline and the limit of the cut for both a 35 and 40 mph design.
Red and white flagging marked the 35 mph centerline, yellow
marked the 40 mph centerline, blue marked the 35 mph cut
slope, and orange marked the 40 mph cut slope. The cut
slopes had been staked for a 1/4:1 (horizontal to vertical)
which assumed a rock cut. Both the 35 and 40 mph design
results in the removal of the ' existing vegetation which
would be difficult to re-establish on a 1/4:1 slope. A
flatter slope could be considered to allow more
revegetation.
Stop No.3 was at China Row, M.P. 385.35 and curve No.7.
China Row is the location of a picnic area and also the tree
canopy over the roadway formed primarily be black willows.
The trees immediately adjacent to the road would be removed
by any roadway widening or alignment improvement and would
also be more greatly impacted by the 40 mph than the 35 mph
design.
The black willows are advanced in age and no secondary or replacement growth is apparent.
If the canopy effect
is to be maintained, replacement growth should be started
that would conform to whatever alignment is selected. Because
of the existing limited size of the picnic area, the Forest

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�Service would like to discourage its use. Curve No. 7 immediately upstream from China Row was marked for both 35 and
40 mph designs and a 1-1/2:1 cut slope. There was a difference of opinion regarding the relative significance of the
visual impact between the 35 and 40 mph designs.
Stop No.4 was at Logan Cave, M.P. 386.3 or curve No. 22.
Any flattening of the curve to achieve 35 or 40 mph design
speed would result in encroachment into the river. The existing channel is already confined with haphazard unattractive riprap protecting the roadway. Several options for
flattening the curve was discussed including the following:
1.

Place the roadway on a bridge-type structure that
would cantilever out over the river. The structure
would extend out to about the center of the channel
and would apply only to the 35 mph design. The
roadway profile would have to be considerably higher
than the existing roadway to provide hydraulic
clearance beneath the cantilevers that would support
the structure girders.· Clark Ostergaard showed an
artists rendering of what the cantilever structure
would look like.

2.

Move the channel of the river by cutting into the
bank opposite the roadway. This would require a
channel change up to 500 feet in length for the
35 mph design speed and up to 600 feet for the
40 mph ·design speed. A retaining wall along the
roadway would be included£or both design speeds.

3.

Retain the existing river channel and construct a
bridge over the river for the roadway. This would
require a structure up to 400 feet long for the
35 mph design speed and 550 feet long for the 40 mph
design speed. The bridge would extend out to the
center of the existing channel for the 35 mph
design. For the 40 mph design the bridge would
essentially cover the channel ~or about 300 feet.
In both cases the roadway profile would be at
least 4 feet higher than the existing roadway
profile to provide for hydraulic clearance under
the structure.

4.

Switch the locations of the river and the roadway
by constructing bridges at each end of the roadway
curve. Due to the skew angle at which the roadway
would cross the river, each of the bridges would
be up to 200 feet in length. The bridges could be
shortened by reducing the crossing skew angle by
making some fairly sharp bends in the river at the
structures.

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�The advantages and disadvantages of each of the four options
was discussed, but no clear consensus was reached.
It was
agreed that additional studies should be done in this area
to better define the options described above. The Forest
Service would like to discourage parking immediately adjacent
to the cave and provide parking near Cottonwood Creek.
Stop No.5 was - at Cottonwood Creek and curve No. 24 at
M.P. 386.45. The narrow structure should be replaced. At
curve No. 24, the relative impacts of both the 35 and 40 mph
designs were discussed. Both would result in considerable
excavation into the hillside with the difference being in
the amount of cut. An additional option identified in the
field was to cut through the ridge that separates the Logan
River and Cottonwood Creek drainages which would probably
involve no more earthwork than the other options. It was
agreed that it should be evaluated.
Stop No.6 was at M.P. 387.1 at curve No. 29. Both the 35
and 40 mph alignments were staked. The Hillside at this
location is less vegetated and has no unusual or distinguishing features.
Little difference is evident between the
30 and 40 mph designs.
The field inspection showed that it
would be des~rable to have the 40 mph design align with the
tangent to the west to eliminate the reverse curve.
Stop No. 7 wa~ at M.P. 387.6 just below the lower twin bridge.
It was concluded that the existing alignment should be followed to eliminate the need for additional fill, and if possible to flatten the existing man-made rock fill slope so
that it could be revegetated.
Stop No.8 was at M.P. 387.9 just above the lower twin bridge
in the dugway.
Replacement of -the lower twin bridge was
discussed and consensus was reached that the best option is
to replace the bridge with a structure on new alignment upstream of the existing bridge. This would require a new cut
through the hill next to the existing cut, which could be
filled and shaped to a naturally appearing contour with material from the new cut. At the other abutment it would be
desirable to flatten the fill slop- s, which would result in
e
encroachment into the flats at the base of the fill.
In the dugway itself, the development of a climbing land was
discussed which would require either a retaining wall on the
downhill side or cutting further into the hillside. Clark
Ostergaard showed an artists rendering of how a retaining
wall would appear. Cutting into the hillside in the lower
portion of the dugway does not appear feasible because the
slope is less stable than the upper portion of the dugway
where the existing rock cuts appear stable. The most feasible solution may be a combination of widening the rock cut

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�in the upper portion of the dugway and constructing a
retaining wall in the lower portion of the dugway.
Stop No. 9 was at M.P. 388.4 at the upper twin bridge. The
most feasible location for replacement of the upper twin
bridge would be down stream and as close to the existing
bridge as possible to avoid the riparian areas of the river.
The new bridge location would result in less shading of the
structure which should alleviate some of the icing problems
experienced by the existing structure.
Stop No. 10 was at M.P. 389.9 at Ricks Spring. There appeared to be consensus in shifting the alignment of the road
as close to the river as possible to permit parking to be
consolidated on the same side of the road as the spring.
Stop No. 11 was at M.P. 393.8 at Tony Grove Creek. The existing narrow structure would need to be replaced. The roadway in this section could be widened to provide for a continuous climbing lane with essentially all of the widening
being done on the roadside away from .the river.
Stop No. 12 was at the M.P. 396.9 at the lower Beaver Creek
bridge near the Franklin Basin Road intersection. The existing narrow structure would need · to be replaced on the
existing alignment. The Franklin Road intersection would
also be improved.
Stop No. 13 was at M.P. 397.7 along Beaver Creek. DUe to
the relatively narrow area between Beaver Creek and the hillside, it appeared to be difficult to develop a continuous
climbing lane along Beaver Creek from just above the Franklin
Road intersection to just below the Beaver Mountain Road
intersection. Also the modified typical section should be
considered for this 2.5 mile section.
Stop No. 14 was at M.P. 405.1 or Curve No. 85. Both the 35 ·
and 40 mph designs would result in considerable new fill.
The existing fill would need to be removed and used to restore the cuts on either side of the fill to a more natural
contour.
Stop No. 15 was at the Bear Lake Overlook at M.P. 405.8.
The location of Alternative G-3 was pointed out, particularly
the area where the deep cut through the ridge below the lookout would be located.
Stop No. 16 was back down the canyon at the Burnt Bridge at
M.P. 385.7. The options for replacement of this bridge were
discussed with the consensus being that the bridge should be
replaced at the present location with a temporary bridge
located downstream to carry traffic during construction.

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�Stop No. 17 was at M.P. 384.8 in the area just abbve Wood
Camp campground where the McGuire Primrose is located. The
plant was not yet readily apparent but the known locations
were pointed out which extend westerly down the rock outcrop
to within about 40 feet of the existing road. Any proposed
road improvements should avoid this area. The potential
location for a slow vehicle turnout at 389.9 should be far
enough upstream to not adversely affect this area.
SLC99/d.1902

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�LOGAN CANYON U.S. HIGHWAY 89
TECHNICAL MEMORANDUM

* * * N0 I S E * * *

Prepared By
John D.A. Neil, P.E.
UDOT

April 1987

�LOGAN CANYON
TECHNICAL MEMORANDUM

* * * NOISE * * *
Introduction
Acoustical
Environment.
Logan
Canyon's
acoustical
environment has three parts - natural, human and mechanical.
sounds come from birds and other (usually small) denizens of the
rushing water, wind, and rustling leaves o~ trees. Human sounds
canyon include .conversation, laughter and play, to name a few.

(sound)
Natural
forest,
in the

These first two parts of the acoustical environment together can be
called background' noise, background sounds, or just simply the
background. Whether or not the background is "noise" (unwanted sound) is
according to one's own likes and dislikes.
Intruding into this background is a third part of the acoustical
environment, namely noise from machinery. Included in this category for
Logan Canyon are such things as highway vehicles , off-road recreational
vehicles, , overhead aircraft (usually high altitude and not a very
signi ficant part' of the soundscape), temporary construction acti vi ties
and small power generators.
Sources of intruding noise studied in this report are restricted to
those sources under some ' jurisdiction of the Utah . Department of
Transportation - namely, highway traffic and highway construction.
Animals.
It is common to assume for environmental reports that
animals are not harmed, stressed, or annoyed any more than are humans by
highway traffic noise and construction noise related to highway
improvements. This same assumption is made here.
Related to the above assumption is another - that animals are · as
adaptable to intruding ' noise as are humans. To date, no experience of
this author suggests the contrary.
Scope of Study. No generally accepted research findings seem to be
available that contradict the two assumptions just made. Consequently,
the major task of this report is simplified to accomplish the following:
to understand and mInImIze noise impacts of highway improvement
alternatives affecting people using Logan Canyon.
Methodology
This noise study is consistent with Federal Highway Administration
(FHWA) procedures and standards contained in its Federal-Aid Highway
Program Manual, Vol. 7, Chapter 7, Section 3 (FHPM 7-7-3), 1982 revision.

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Traffic noise calculations and predictions are based - upon FHWA's
Highway Traffic Noise Prediction Nomographs.
Noise levels used in this report are in terms of "Leq," representing
"equivalent" (average) noise levels. Leq is a commonly used indicator of
general human sensitivity to traffic noise.
Spr. p (~h
interference is
particular ly vulnerable to noise, and speech relates well to the Leq
parameter.
Land Use and Sensitivity to Noise
Classification. The FHWA has classified human sensitivity to traffic
noise into the following broad outdoor land use or activity categories,
and has set a corresponding upper noise limit (or standard) for each
category. These upper limits are used as criteria to determine when
measures need to be considered to reduce noise.
Table 1:
Activity
Category

FHWA Noise Abatement Criteria
Leq
Criteria

Sensitivty

Examples of
Activities

A

High

57

Outdoor theater

B

tvloderate

67

Residences,
libraries, parks,
picnic and recreation areas

C

Low

72

Shopping mall,
Service Station

o

None

Undeveloped land

.In the following table is a general catalog of land uses adjacent to
US-89 through Logan Canyon. Land uses, quantities and percentages shown
are estimates only; they are not intended to show an exact description of
current usage, since change is expected as development continues in the
canyon.
Also shown in the table are corresponding FHWA activity
categories and noise level criteria.

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�Table 2:
Section 1:

Logan Canyon Land Use &amp; Sensitivity to Noise

Right Hand Fork to Twin Creek
(Est.)

(MP~

383 . 5 to 391.6)

% (est.) of

FHWA
Activity

Leq
Criteria

AdJacent Land
97.1

Categor~

2

1.3

B

67

Designated picnic
areas

2

1.2

B

67

Scenic turnouts,
parking

2

0.4

C

72

Land Use
Undeveloped U.S.
forest land

Quantit~

Designated campgrounds

D

100%

Section 2:

Twin Creek to Summit

(MP~

391.6 to 404.8)
96.6

Undeveloped u.s.
forest land

D

Designated campgrounds

2

1.4

B

67

Cabins (seasonal
homes)

13

1.2

B

67

4

0.8

B

67

Homes

100%

Section 3:

Summit to Garden City (MP+ 404.8 to 411.8)

Undeveloped -private/
local land

59.0

D

Undeveloped u.S.
forest land

33.9

D

Designated campgrounds

I

2.0

B

67

Designated picnic
areas

1

1.4

B

67

3

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Section 3 Continued
Cabins (seasonal
homes)

10

1.4

8

67

Commercial

3

1.1

C

72

Cemetery

1

0.5

8

67

Scenic turnouts,
rest area, parking

2

0.4

C

72

Homes, contiguous
ranch land

4

0.3

8

67

100%
Sensti ve Oevelopments. Acti vi ty category "8" developments are the
land uses most likely to be sensitive to noise in Logan Canyon.
Therefore, the remainder of this report only discusses " these "8'~
activities.
Table 3 identi fies many speci fic developments near enough to the
highway to be noise sensitive. It is possible that more sites have been
developed than are included on the list, and it is very likely that more
si tes will yet be developed. The noise criteria already discussed and
the noise p~edyctions found later in this report may be generally
applied. Consequently, it is hoped that architects and users of new
developments utilize the results of this report to aid them in the design
of new homes and recreation facilities in Logan Canyon.
Sites likely to be impacted. From Table 3, only two sites are likely
to have some detrimental noise impact, resulting from changes in highway
alignment. "These are both in Section 1:

*
*

China Row Campground
Lower Twin Bridge Picnic Area

Before studying these special sites, traffic noise in general will be
analyzed.
Traffic Noise in Logan Canyon Generally
Affect of Level of Service and Volume. The combination of traffic
volume and speed that give the most noise for Logan Canyon is not likely
to occur during "the peak traffic hour, when the road is utilized to near
capacity (or "Level 0 f Service E"). Instead, the worst noise situation
usually occurs during periods of "Level of Service C" (LOS-C), which
implies a situation of substantial traffic volume without severe
restriction of speed and maneuverability.

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Table 3:

Section

M.P.

Developments Likely to be Sensitive to Traffic Noise,
and/or Construction Noise

L/R

Vicinit:i

Oescri~tion

Dist.+ to
Exist.-Hw:i CL

Dist.+ to
Altern-:- CL's

Impact by
Change in
Alignment
Disbenefit
No change
Benefit
Uncertain

1

384.4
384.6
386.7
387.8

R
L
R
L

China Row
Wood Camp
Cottonwood Canyon
Lower Twin, Bridge

Pic"nic Area (1 site)
Campground (10 sites)
2 cabins ,
Picnic Area (6 sites)

70
90
110
160

60
90
115-200
135

2

393.2
393. 8
394.8
396.1
396.6
396.9
401.0
402.4

R
L
L
R
R
L
R
L

USU Forestry Station
Tony Grove
Red Banks
Rigby Hollow
Brash Canyon
Franklin Basin
Amazon Hollow
';Jillow Spring

Cabins (seasonal)
Home (guard station)
Campground (16 units)
Cabin
3 cabins
Cabin
2 cabins
UOOT tvlaint. c,amp

750
470
160
210
120
1,450
170
600

750
475
160
210
120
1,450
170
600

3

405.1
405.8
408.0
408.2
408.3
408.4
409.1
409.1
410.5
411.1
411.1
411.7
411.7

R
R
R
L

700
430
500
130-800
250
170
350
520
420
230
200
100
170

900
630
600
125-800
250-310
170
350-900
520-1,000
420
230
200
100
170

Ul

R

L
L
L
R

L
R
R
R

Summit
' Summit
Bridgerland Village
Bridger land Village
Bridger land Village
Bridgerland Village
Bridgerland Village
Bridgerland Village
S. of Garden City
Garden City Canyon
S. of Garden City
Garden City
Gard'en City

Sunrise Campground
Sunrise Picnic area
Cabin
5 cabins
Cabin
Cabin
Cabin
Cabin
Ranch home
Ranch home
Cemetery
Home
Home

No
No
No
No
No
No
No
No

change
change
change
change
change
change
change
change

Benefit
Benefit
Benefit
No change
Benefit
No change
Benefit
Benefit
No change
No change
No change
No change
No change

i

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�Intui ti vely, this assertion seems reasonable when one recalls these
two facts (assuming a road of fixed capacity): (1) that traffic volumes
exceeding LOS-C cause congestion with a corresponding decrease in average
vehicle speed; and (2) that noise is related to both volume and speed.
It follows that a gain in noise from more vehicles is compensated by a
noise loss from speed reduction. Thus, the maximum volume at LOS-C (also
called the maximum service flow C· or MSF -C) typically gives the worst
noise scenario.
If improvements are made to increase the capacity of the road, then
the MSF-C and corresponding maximum noise level also increase. However,
it would take a doubling of volume to increase noise only 3 decibels (a
barely noticeable increase).
MSF-C values for the three sections in Logan Canyon have been
documented in CH2M Hill's _U_S_-8~9~,__L_o~g~a_n~_C_a_n~y~o_n__~S_t_u_d~y_:~__
T_e_ch_n_l_·c_a l
__
Memorandum (Draft, December 1986), pp. 6-12 and 6-17.
They are as
follows:
Table 4:

Maximum Service Flow C (vph)
Section 1

Existing conditions
Maximum improvements*

Section 2

Section 3

386
· 532

Roadway Geometrics

306
412

267
412

*(Include: 4' shoulders, 12' lane width, increased passing.)
Affect of Vehicle Type.
The summer average weekday traffic
composi tion includes approximately 84% passenger cats and light trucks
(IT), according to the CH2M Hill study previously cited, p. 5-15. This
is the least noisy class of vehicles (on a per vehicle basis).
Recreational vehicles (RV) and medium trucks (MT) are similar enough
acoustically to be combined; these represent 13% of the traffic mix. The
noise emission level of an average MT is about 11 decibels higher than
the average car.
The remaining 3% of the vehicles are heavy trucks (HT); they are the
noisiest class because they are typically diesel powered.
In the proportions indicated, the MT class as a whole contributes
slightly more noise than ei ther the HT · or automobile class. This fact
may have significance in the discussion of noise abatement.
Table 5 uses the traffic composition just described to portion the
MSF-C traffic volumes from Table 4 into flow rates per vehicle type.

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Table 5:

Traffic

Mi~

for Maximum Service Flow C (vph)

Section 1

Existing
Conditions

Maximum
Improvements

Cars &amp; LT
MT &amp; RV
HT

324
50
12

447
69
16

257
40
9

346
54
12

224
35
8

346
54
12

Section 2
Cars &amp; LT
MT &amp; RV
HT
Section 3
Cars &amp; LT
MT &amp; RV
HT
(LT = Light Trucks, MT
Recreational Vehicles.)

=

Medium Trucks,

HT

=

Heavy trucks,

RV

=

Affect of Speed. Noise is related to vehicle speed; and average
vehicle speed is related to highway design (affecting level of service),
vehicle type, and gradient. Table 6 (on the following page) gives the
estimated average speeds for these three parameters.
Although the effects of speed on traffic noise are somewhat different
for various vehicle types, approximate general effects may be condensed
into the following rule of thumb for Logan Canyon:
for each 5 mph
increment of average speed increase, the overall average noise level will
increase about 2 decibels.
Affect of Gradient.
Climbing a' grade takes extra power, and a
byproduct of power is noise. Published research findings have shown that
at normal highway speeds, only heavy trucks have a signi ficantly higher
noise level on grades. F:HWA' s Highway Traffic Noise Prediction Model
(FHWA-RD-77-l08) suggests the following HT adjustments for uphill grades:
Add dB
0
+2
+3
+5

Grade
0-2%
3-4%
5-6%
7+%

The FHWA makes no adjustment for downgrade direction. However, heavy
trucks frequently use engine brakes, particularly on the steep grades in

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�Logan Canyon.
Engine brake noise can vary considerably because of
variations in engine and muffler design, load, speed, and driver.
Consequently, the noise emission level for downhill trucks is not as
predictable as is noise for uphill trucks.
For simplicity in this
report, it is assumed that heavy trucks in both directions emit noise
that increase with gradient, according to the FHWA values given above.
Table 6:

Estimated Bidirectional Average Upgrade Speed for MSF-C

Section 1

Cars/LT

Generally 2% average grade
35 mph (or less) existing design, no passing
35 mph design improvements
40 mph design option
45 mph design option
50 mph design option
Twin Bridges locality, 5.5% average grade
35 mph (or less) existing design, no passing
35 mph design improvements
40 mph design, option, climbing lane
45 mph design option, climbing lane
50 mph design option, climbing lane

MT/RV

HT

39
39

39
39

39
39

41
43
45

41
43
45

41
43
45

30

30
35
35
37

30
30
30
31
32

39

41
43
45

39

Section 2
Generally 2% average grade
55 mph existing design
60 mph design option
Beaver
MP-404
50
55
60

49

Mtn. Road to UDOT Maint. Camp and
to Summit, 4-7% grade
mph existing design
mph design option
mph design option

49

49

51

51

51

32
47

32
40
42

32
34
35

30
35
35
37

30
30
30
31
32

49

Section 3
Generally steep (to 7% grade)
35 mph (or less) existing design, no passing
35 mph design improvements, ample passing
40 mph design option
45 mph design option
50 mph design option

30
39

41
43
45

39

Affect of Road Widening. Adding shoulders or widening traffic lanes
symmetrically in both directions from the centerline of the Logan Canyon
highway will not significantly change the noise level heard by a receiver
who is farther than 25 feet from the centerline.
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�However, adding a passing lane to one side of the roadway will shift
the noise in the direction of the passing lane. For receivers at a
distance of 50 feet or less from the highway centerline, a passing lane
(nearest the receiver) can add nearly 1 decibel to the overall Leq. This
noise effect · rapidly diminishes at increasing distances from the
highway. At 100 feet there is essentially no noise increase.
According to Table 3, only one site is close enough to be affected by
noise from a passing lane - China Row Campground. However, no passing
lane is proposed for the vicinity of China Row; therefore road widening
has no significant effect on noise for this project.
Noise Level Predictions. Traffic noise is related to the distance
that a receiver is from the highway, as shown by the following chart.
Affects of Level of Service, vehicle type, speed and gradient (previously
discussed) are included in the approximate generalizations on the chart.
Sound decays at a predictably uniform rate with increasing distance. For
Logan Canyon vicinity the rate is estimated to be about 4.5 dB loss for
each doubling of distance.
Unimproved road sections one and three are described best by Line C
on the chart. Line C intersects the 67 dbA standard at a distance of 40
feet from the centerline. Any human activities farther than 40 feet will
likely not exceed the standard if the ·adjacent road section does not
exceed a 35 mph design.
Although Section Two (unimproved) is a high speed design, other
factors in general reduce the noise to that of Line B. Any improvements
to Section Two will likely increase noise to Line A. Line A receivers
need to be at least 75 feet away from the centerline in order to minimize
speech interference.
General Noise Impacts
There are three criteria that determine the severity of noise
impact: absolute level, relative increase, and fluctuation. All three
are interrelated.
Absolute Level.
Interference with speech is the basis for the
standard or criterion level of 67 dBA. This criterion affects many human ·
activities in the canyon.
China Row campground is near enough to the highway to be impacted· by
highway noise, especially if some highway improvement alternatives bring
traffic somewhat closer to the campground.
All other developments seem to be at sufficient distance (greater
than 75 feet) to not be seriously impacted by the average traffic noise
level.

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�Relative Increase in Noise. Long term residents would be more likely
to notice a traffic noise increase resulting from a highway improvement
than would seasonal residents, campers and other recreation oriented
users of Logan Canyon. However, any change in traffic noise level in the
vicinity of permanently occupied homes is not likely to be noticed by the
residents.
Many cabin .dwellers at Bridger land Village (Section 3) may notice a
drop in traffic noise, if the alignment is shifted from its present
location.
Generally, cabin dwellers will benefit acoustically from
either of the two most feasible alternative alignments (F-3 to the north
of the village, or G-3 to the south).
Fluctuation. Although the level of noise is higher in daytime than
nighttime because of higher daytime use and daytime traffic in the
canyon, heavy truck noise is more noticeable at night. This phenomenon
is in part because there are less cars to partially mask the peak noise
levels of the trucks. Consequently, the difference between highest noise
peaks and background level are much more in contrast and therefore,
noticeable at night.
This type of noise impact will generally affect residents and campers
more than day-use recreationalists. So the people to benefit most are
the ones who ' can be farthest from the traffic.
Again, Bridgerland
Village is a beneficiary of a change in highway alignment.
Special Problem Sites
China Row Campground. A shift in alignment of about 10. feet closer
to the campground is one option being considered for highway improvement.
From the noise prediction chart on the preceding page, it can be seen
that shortening the distanc~ to the highway centerline fro~ 70 feet to 60
feet will increase the noise level about 1 decibel to 64.5 dbA on Line C~
·If highway improvements also ' cause the noise to raise from Line C to
Line B (40 mph design), then the Leq will increase 2 additional decibels
to approximately 66.5 dBA.
Any highway improvements to a higher design speed than 40 mph (Line
A) would have to consider noise abatement at this camp site.
Lower Twin Bridge Picnic Area. A shift in alignment of approximately
25 or 30 feet closer to the picnic area is being considered as part of a
new bridge and roadway alignment.
From the noise prediction chart on the preceding page, it can be seen
that shortening the distance to the highway center line from 160 feet to
130 feet will normally (at grade) increase the noise level nearly 1.5
decibels from 58 to about 59.5 decibels on Line C.
However, the picnic area is at least 30 feet below the grade line of
the highway. Thus, the picnic area is in an · acoustical shadow zone,
causing an approximate 7.5 db reduction of the Leq on the existing
alignment to about 50.5 dBA.
11

�Neglecting any vertical change in alignment, the horizontal shi ft
will cause more of an acoustic shadow. The result would be a Leq of 59.5
. - 9 (shadow) dB = 50.5 dBA approximately, which is the same Leq as for
the existing alignment.
Thus, the Lower Twin Bridge Picnic Area will not be seriously
impacted by tra ffic noise from any of the proposed improvements. Even
with a change to Line A (worst noise situation), the predicted Leq will
not exceed 63 dBA, which is below the 67 dBA standard.
In summary of noise impacts, . only China Row Campground may need to
consider noise abatement, and this will be only in the case of greater
than 40 mph design.
Noise Abatement
Noise abatement will not need to be planned into the project design
for any location, regardless of the highway improvement options under
consideration, with one possible exception. China Row picnic area (one
table) will need noise abatement consideration for a design speed of over
40 mph.
The feasibility of physical noise . protection (wall or berm) at China
Row is poor. A noise wall or berm would crowd the already very small
picnic site, and would be likely out of character with the surrounding
trees.
The most effective noise control is speed control at this location.
Therefore, it is recommended that the d~sign speed not exceed 40 mph at
this location.
Construction Noise
Construction is likely to occur on a piecemeal si te-speci fic basis,
beginning with bridge replacements and detour roads. Perhaps as early as
summer of 1988 if funds are available, a specific site improvement could
get underway.
Acoustically, there is an advantage of this pattern of construction.
People can still use the canyon in general for its diversified recreation
and avoid noise from specific sites under construction.
Construction · noise will probably be quite localized for two reasons.
Sloped terrain and canyon walls will reflect the sound vertically and
away from sensitive activities. · A few sites do have vertical cuts
through rock which tend to channel sound horizontally; however, these
sites are only found occasionally in the canyon, and fairly restricted to
Section One.
The second reason why construction noise will probably be very
localized is that there is an adequate amount of shielding from
vegetation and natural topographic features to impede sound transmission.
12

�Equipment used for construction will be very diversified to meet the
needs of the various types of construction acti vi ties and in various
types of terrain~ Explosives and rock drills are expected to be used in
various places. Standard precautions will be implemented to protect
people from shock _waves and noise.
All construction activities are subject to UDOT amended standard
speci fication Iil07. 25' "Noise and Vibration Control."
Summary
Noise Abatement will not need to be planned into the project design
for any location, regardless of the highway improvement options under
consideration, with one possible exception. China Row picnic area will
need noise abatement consideration for a design speed of over 40 mph.
Because of the impracticality of physical noise barriers at China
Row, it is recommended that the design speed not exceed 40 mph at this
location.
No serious noise problem is expected from construction activities.

13

�TYPICAL SOURCES
Gunfire (to mark8man)

NOISE
LEVEL
(dBA)

HU~IAN

RESPONSE

CONVERSATIONAL
RELATIONSHIPS
at 3 feet

140
Painfully loud

Noise loudness or intensity is measured in
units called decibels, abbreviated dB or db.
It is logarithmically based, so 10 decibels
increase in sound intensity level means 10
times the acoustic energy from the source(s).
I-bwever, human ears perceive the increase 0 f
10 db as a doubling of loudness.
The db scale covers the range of human
hearing from 0 (the bottom limit of hearing
ability for an average person with good
hearing) to 130 (when sound energy causes pain
to the ears).
The following table relates
noise levels associated with typical noise
sources.
Typical
human
response
and
conversational problems are also given.
Just as the human eye sees the color
yellow best because it is in the center of the
visible spectrum, so the human ear hears
sounds better that are in the center of the
human audio range of musical notes or pitches.
Consequently" a weighting scale has been
devised, and is internationally used in many
sound measurements that tries to take this
unequal human pitch perception into account.
It is called the "A-weighted decibel scale"
abbreviated "dbA," "dBA" or sometimes "dB(A)."

130

120
,

Di8cotbeque
Auto Horn (3')

Hearin/Z Damage (leu than
IS min/day exposure)
110

100

Hearing Damage
(l-hr/day exposure)

90

Rearing Damage
(S-brs/day exposure)

SO

Food Blender

Annoying

Sbouting

Heavy Truck (50')
Very Loud
Car 40 mph (20')

70

Telepbone Use Difficult
Railt'd Voice
Normal Voice

Office

60
Low Voice

Ligbt Auto Traffic (100')

50

Quiet
Whisper

40

All sound measurements and predictions in
this report use the standardized dBA.

Very Soft Wbisper

Library
30

Broadc8Stin/! Studio

Very Quiet

20

10

0

Just Audible

Thre~hold

of Hearing

�APPENDIX TO LOGAN CANYON NOISE TECHNICAL MEMORANDUM

* * *

* * *

SPEED ANALYSIS

This
Appendix
is
to determine approximate vehicle speeds
throughout thp canyon for various scenarios.
The results are for
use in Table 6 (on page 8) of the ·oise Technical Memorandum.
Advisory
speed signs
for
specific curves are ignored for
thee noise analysis.
Average speed for sections of roarlway under
LeveJ of Service C maximum flow is the target of thjs Appendix.
highl-lay can
he
Each
of
the
three
main
sections
of
a nontypical
subclassified into a
typical
gradient type and
gradient type as follows:
a.
h .

Section 1:
Mountainous terrain
Generally 2% average grade.
T\,J i 11 B rid g e s ] 0 C 8.1 i t .Y 5. 5 % (a. p pro x . ) a v e rag e g r ad P.
1

•

Sectio~:
Nostly roll ing terra in
some mounta inous
Generally 2% average grade.
Beaver Mtn. Road to UDOT Maintenance Camp, and MP-404 to
summit· 1 4 -7% grade (4.5% average)
1

a.

h.

a.
b.

Section 3-:
Mountainous terrain
Generally steep, to 7% (5.5% avg.).
Base of mountain to Garden City, 2% average grade, restricted
speed.
This is a relatively short section and can be
jgnored.

Existing Conditions
Since passing
lanes
are not
provided anywhere in Logan
Canyon above Right Hand Fork, it follows that cars must fall into
gueues behind heavy trucks and slow recreational vehiclesa (RV's)
on uphill
gradients.
Since heavy
trucks (HT)
are the slowest
class of vehicles on uphill grades, HT speed also is the limiting
factor for all other vehicles on uphill grades.
The AASHTO Green Book" (A Po 1 icv.~~1.~Geo~.~ r ic___~ s ig_ of.
n
Highways and
St.reets, 1984, p. 255) sho\.;rs that. H1' on long grades
steeper than 2% will travel about 20 mph.
1/

For downhill and on grades less than 2%, it is
assumed that
all vehicles can go the speed consistent with level of service C,
as det.ermpned by TAble 8-] and footnot.e b of the Hi d"hwav~aci ty
f"] a !!.y a 1 ~ T R B S .~ cia l_y e J2 0 r t , #: 2 0 9, p . 8 - 5 :

�Cars/LT

Section 1
3f&gt; mph de9, j gn

MT/RV

50 mph design opt&gt;ion

8 .

39
41
43
45

41
43
45

3f&gt; mph design

39

35

41

35
~~ 7
39

improvements

40 mph design option
45 mph desjgn opt, j on
b.

improvement,s

40 mph design opt. ion
45 mph design opt. i on
50 mph design option
Se c tion

43
45

39

HT
39
41
4 :i
.:If&gt;

30
30
31
32

OJ
L.,

a.

60 mph design option .

b.

55 mph design option
60 mph design opt. ion

51

51

49

40
42

34
35

39
41
43
45

35
35
37
39

47

Sect/ - -- -- - - - - ion :3

35
40
45
50

mph design opt. ion
mph def i gn option
s
mph design option
mph design option

30

30
31
32

Conclusion and Summary

For acousticaJ evaluation,
speed
nf
vehicle
classes have
been calculated
at JJoS-C
condi~jons for various riesign options .
These speeds are compiled int.o Table 6 (p. 8) of the Technical
Memorandum for Noise.

�Design Speed

Level

nO
55

52
50

50
4:1

48
46

40
35

44
40*

30

35*

Rolling

Mountainous

51

-1-9

49
,~ 'I

47

45

43

43
40
35*

:39

45
-ll

:35*

*

Hi"I C 's
Average speed has been c hanged from
directions given
1n
t.han
footnote b
i n order to not exceed the design speed by more
5 mph.

Average speed of both directions of traffic for each section
or
subsectjon
of
roadway
is sufficiently accurate to estimate
noise levels.
Co nsequently, the didirectional average speeds for
pxisting conditions are calculated to be as follows:
Sect jon 1
a
b

39

30

Section 2
a

49

b

32

Sect jon 3
all

30

It
is
assumed
for
the
noise
study
that all
design
jmprovemen t options
will include
at least
som e li mited passing
opportunities in all sections of the c anyon .
Co nsequently, heavy
trucks
no
long e r
"'Tould
Ijmit
the
speerJ
of
fast.er vehicles
totally .
The

AASHTO Green Book,
p.
258 shows that for long steep
RV's (and medium trucks as s umed) cannot maintain
a speed
greater than 40 mph.

grades~

In t he
following table,
as done for existing co nditions, a
hidirec tjo na] average speed is
estimatpd
for
the
given de s ign
speeds .
Medium trucks and recreational vehicles are assumeed to
have speeds betwee n those o f cars an d heavy trucks .

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MEMORANDUM

c..

TO:

Interdisciplinary Team

FROM:

Stan Nuffer

DATE:

June 11, 1987

SUBJECT:

Logan Canyon Environmental Study

PROJECT:

~kev(~~(
t2/~ UQA)

B21163.FO

The following items are submitted for your review in preparation for the next Interdisciplinary Team meeting scheduled
for June 22 at 1:30 p.m. in Brigham City. Your support and
cooperation are appreciated. We realize the agenda for the
meeting is a very ambitious one.
1.

Minutes of May 18 meeting (page 2 was missing from the
June 4 mailing)
Alternatives Technical Memorandum (Chapter 8)

3.

Air Quality Technical Memorandum

4.

Land Use and Recreation Technical Memorandum

5.

Terrestrial Resources Technical Memorandum

6.

Aquatic Resources Technical Memorandum

7.

Biological Assessment by Stanley L. Welsh

The Socia-Economic and Visual Resources Technical Memoranda
.........
will be sent as soon as possible.
BOT538/063

�LOGAN CANYON ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY
ID TEAM MEETING MINUTES
May 18, 1987
ATTENDANCE:
Jack Spence, Sierra Club
Clark Ostergaard~ USFS
Fred LaBar, USFS
Mark Shaw, USFS
Don Duff, USFS
Bill Helm, Unattached
John Neil, UDOT
Lynn Zollinger, UDOT
Duncan Silver, FHWA
Gale Larson, Valley Engineering
Cliff Forsgren, CH2M HILL
Margaret Johnson, CH2M HILL
Sheldon Barker, CH2M HILL
ITEM 1 - REVIEW OF MINUTES
The minutes of the May 4 meeting were reviewed.
ITEM 2 - DISCUSSION OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS PORTION OF
THE SOCIO-ECONOMIC TECHNICAL MEMORANDUM
Margaret Johnson led the discussion of the socio-economic
technical memorandum. Margaret ' distributed an updated draft
of the memorandum which addressed the vlri tten comments received from Steve Flint. Jack Spence had a number of additional comments which were discussed. One of the primary
items to come out of the discussion was the need to provide
information on driving times, using alternate routes, from
various locations on the Wasatch Front to Bear Lake. This
is not information that is generally available.
It was
suggested that the "Friends of Bear Lake" a property owners
association with many members in Weber, Davis, and Salt Lake
Counties be contacted to see if they could provide some
information. The Friends of Bear Lake may also be able to
provide information on the number of recreational homes in
the area which are owned by people along the Wasatch Front.
ITEM 3 - REVIEW OF THE TECHNICAL MEMORANDUM ADDRESSING NOISE
John Neil led the discussion.
The memorandum focused primarily on picnic and camping areas. John indicated that the
only problem area would be at China Rowand that it would be
impossible to mitigate above 40 mph because the picnic area

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Page 2
was so close to the road. He also expressed an interest in
locating areas of the river near the road where there might
be some fishing.
The memorandum does not address fisherman,
because John does not know specifically where they are likely
to be.
It is also not known if the background noise from
the river is great enough to· muffle roadway noises. There
was some discussion of dispersed recreation (hiking, crosscountry skiing, etc). Jack Spence was not sure that it had
been addressed. Duncan Silver pointed out that there were
enough sites evaluated and enough information presented to
allow someone to estimate the noise level at a particular
location where someone might be hiking or skiing.
ITEM 4 - REVIEW OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS PORTION OF THE
TERRESTRIAL RESOURCES TECHNICAL MEMORANQUM
Jack Spence indicated that bald eagles used Logan Canyon (as
well as Blacksmith Fork) and that he had seen Peregrine Falcons in Tab Hollow.
It was also reported that Stan Welch from the BYU Herbarium
had been in the Canyon and had located two additional sites
with Maquire Primrose. He will finish his report within the
next 2 or 3 weeks. Mr. Welch has indicated to UDOT that his
primary concern would be during construction. Increased
dust during the pollination season could cause problems.
More detailed information will be in his report.
ITEM 5 - TRAFFIC FORECASTS
Cliff Forsgren and Jack Spence will review the traffic projections and Cliff will report at the next meeting.
OTHER ITEMS OF DISCUSSION
Duncan Silver asked for a list of uncompleted items. There
have been a number of things discussed in meetings and no
record kept ot their completion.
(Note:
the list will be
distributed at the next ID Team meeting) .
Duncan Silver also told the ID Team that FHWA was going to
require FHWA visual resource criteria be used in the study.
A copy of the criteria had been provided to UDOT.
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MINUTES OF ID TEAM MEETING
October 20, 1986
Attendance:
Stan Nuffer, CH2M HILL
Cliff Forsgren,CH2M HILL
Fred LaBar, USFS
Gale Larson, Valley Engineering
Duncan Silver, FHWA
John Neil, UDOT
Lynn Zollinger, UDOT
Rudy Lukez, Sierra Club
Al Stilley, Northern Engineering
Item 1 - Review of Minutes
Stan Nuffer led the discussion of the minutes of the previous ID team meeting. Rudy Lukez referred to the questions
on the 1930's traffic data that had been discussed during
the last ID team meeting. Rudy said that his interest in
the data was curiosity only and he did not think that it
would be of any value in the present work.

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Duncan Silver asked for some clarification of the visual
criteria. He also felt that there should be some discussion
on how the criteria , were developed and used. Clark Ostergaard,
who prepared the information on visual criteria, was not
present and the question was deferred until the next
meeting.
Rudy Lukez asked Fred LaBar if the Forest Service wanted to
have more camping spaces in the Canyon? Fred said that
there is a proposed group camping site in the Beaver Creek
area.
The camp site will hold between 200 and 300 campers.
If the money was available, the site would be constructed as
soon as they could get someone on site to build it. Fred
also said that the Beaver Mountain Ski Area had plans to
increase their camping sites. Lynn Zollinger asked if there
was information available on the expected increase in
camping and skiing. Fred said that he would get the
information for Lynn.
Duncan Silver asked if the increase in skiing would impact
the DHV. Since skiing occurs during the low traffic volume
period, there would be no impact on the DHV.
There was also some discussion of the possibility of electric power reaching some private land in Stump Hollow and
Utah State University's plans to expand some University facilities in the Canyon.

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�Item 2 - Discussion of Safety Analysis Technical Memo

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The Safety Analysis Technical Memo was discussed. Duncan
Silver asked if it would be necessary to look at individual
sites if the entire road was brought up to standard. Cliff
Forsgren answered that in most cases it would probably not
be necessary to look at individual sites'. Duncan then suggested that individual sites be given a detailed examination
only if spot improvements were considered in a given area.
Item 3 - Study Goals and Objectives
Stan Nuffer introduced the subject and led the discussion.
A handout listing goals and objectives for component and
alternative development was distributed. This included
illustrations of existing, standard and modified standard
cross sections. An outline of possible alternate components
was also distributed. Duncan Silver was not certain how the
environmental constraints would fit into the development of
alternates. It was pointed out that the visual criteria was
nearly completed and the environmental constraints would be
developed concurrently with the component and alternative
development.

(

There was a lot of discussion on how alternates should be
developed and what the overall goal should be.
It was pointed
out that if significant improvements were to be constructed,
the goal would be to achieve a level of service C for the
year 2010, realizing that it would probably not be possible
in every case. Duncan Silver suggested that a "standard"
roadway be designed, with LOS C throughout the Canyon. Where
that was not environmentally possible, alternates could be
developed to improve the road as much as possible without
damaging the environment.
Stan Nuffer suggested that the "modified standard" which was
used in the lower part of the canyon be used to prepare a
• "baseline" alternate. Duncan Silver pointed out that the
modified standard did not allow the drainage and other maintenance features needed to protect the road base. Lynn
Zollinger said that UDOT would accept the modified standard
in order to maintain continuity along the roadway. Rudy
Lukez made a motion that CH2M HILL develop a baseline alternate using the modified standard. Duncan Silver wanted
to be certain that UDOT understood that using a modified
standard meant sacrificing maintenance standards which might
impact the road. He also said that the decision to use a
modified standard as the baseline must be well documented.
Dismissing highway standards without adequately addressing
them can be challenged just as easily as dismissing environmental problems without adequate study.

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�(

There was also some discussion of the design speed. Stan
Nuffer suggested a minimum design speed of 40 mph except in
the first 7 or 8 miles where Fred LaBar said the Forest Service has already evaluated a 40 mph speed limit and found it
unacceptable.
It was finally determined that a modified
standard section, with a design speed of between 35 and
.40 mph, depending upon conditions within the Canyon, be used
as the baseline alternate.
Item 4 - Discussion of Geotechnical Investigations
Al Stilley, from Northern Engineering and Testing, gave a
report on the geologic mapping and the drilling program
which was just getting underway on the alternative
alignments from Bear Lake Summit to Garden City. Areas
along the existing alignment where improvements could be
made will also be investigated.
Item 5 - Alternate Routes to Logan Canyon
John Neil reported that he had been given the assignment to
look at alternate routes to Logan Canyon. John said that he
was just beginning his study. Rudy Lukez suggested that
John contact a Mr. Wendall Anderson in Logan. Mr. Anderson
is apparently familiar with some previous studies
investigating a route through Blacksmith Fork Canyon

(

The next meeting will be held at the Ranger District office
in Logan at 3:00 p.m., prior to the public meeting in Garden
City at 7:00 p.m.
SLC-STN/03

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ClOd HIll

MEMORANDUM

TO:

Interdisciplinary Team

FROM:

Stan Nuffer

DATE:

June 19, 1986

SUBJECT:

Logan Canyon Environmental Study

PROJECT:

B21163.AO

Your attendance and participation in the first Interdisciplinary Team meeting held on June 10, 1986 was appreciated.
Enclosed are minutes of the meeting for your review, and an
agenda for the next meeting on June 23, at 2:00 p.m. at the
UDOT District office in Ogden.
We look forward to seeing you there.
BOC5/025

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�AGENDA - LOGAN CANYON STUDY
INTERDISCIPLINARY STUDY TEAM
MEETING NO. 2 - OGDEN, UTAH
JUNE 23, 1986 - 7:00 p.m.
1.

Review minutes of June 10, meeting.

2.

Discussion of role of interdisciplinary team.

3.

Discussion of Level of Documentation required by NEPA
for environmental studies.

4.

Public involvement program outline.

5.

Schedule of interdisciplinary team meetings.

BOC5/026

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�LOGAN CANYON ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT
MINUTES OF INTERDISCIPLINE TEAM MEETING
June 10, 1986
ATTENDANCE:
Lynn Zollinger - UDOT
Jim Naegle - UDOT
John Neal - UDOT
Gale Larson - Valley Engineering
Rudy Lukez - Cache Group Sierra Club
Todd G. Weston - UDOT
Al Stilley - Northern Engineering &amp; Testing
Dave Baumgartner - USFS-Logan
Stan Nuffer - CH2M HILL
Cliff Forsgren - CH2M HILL
Duncan Silver - FHWA
Howard Richardson - UDOT
Sheldon Barker - CH2M HILL
Tom Haislip - CH2M HILL
John D'Amico - CH2M HILL
Frank Grover - USFS-SLC
Steve Flint - Bridgerland Audobon Association

Stan Nuffer called the meeting to order and asked members of
the group to introduce themselves. Following the introductions, some of the members were asked to briefly describe
their views of the project and its objectives.
Jim Naegle indicated that UDOT wants a thorough investigation
and has no preconceived idea as to what, if anything, should
be done in the canyon. He expressed appreciation for the
interest of the environmental cowmunity and the public in
general. He also wants members of the I.D. Team to have
full input into all phases of the project. The most serious
problems in the canyon presently are narrow and obsolete
bridges which are in need of repair or replacement.
Lynn Zollinger explained that UDOT has a responsibility to
the traveling public to provide safe, efficient transportation.
UDOT wants to satisfy the needs of the traveling
public and the environmental community. He expects an openminded study with adequate input from all of the interested
public.
Dave Baumgartner said that the rules of the environmental
"ball game" have changed since the '70's. A successful
study is dependant upon public support and understanding.
This project will be a challenging one and standard
solutions will probably not work in every instance.

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�Todd Weston stated that he does not have any notion that
there will ever be a freeway or a 4-lane highway through the
canyon. He feels that there are more problems in the canyon
than old bridges and the study must address those problems
without being locked into one concept. He does expect ideas
to improve transportation can be implemented.
Rudy Lukez stated that there are many personal feelings about
the canyon and that some people will be upset if there is a
large construction project in it. The canyon is an environmentally sensitive area and there is a need for careful study
and analysis before any work can begin. The environmental
community desires to be kept informed. Rudy also expressed
concern that meetings held during the day may be difficult
for those who work elsewhere to attend.
Steve Flint stated that there were many people who questioned
the transportation needs in the canyon.
Stan Nuffer then explained the I.D. Team and the role of
each I.D. Team member. The I.D. Team is to function as the
group which reviews scope, data, methodology and conclusions
of the study and determines whether each stage of the study
adequately addresses the critical issues and meets the objectives of the study.
Gale Larson said that Valley Engineering's office in Logan
will be the local contact point and someone will be available
for questions at least 10 hours per week. Valley Engineering
will also perform the field surveys and traffic counts.
Some traffic counts were conducted during the ski season in
order to have the information available for the study this
summer. Gale expects to work closely with Sheldon Barker
with the public involvement task work.
Stan Nuffer then introduced the Scope of Work, as included
in the consulting agreement between UDOT and CH2M HILL, and
led the discussion on the tasks outlined in the agreement.
Task 1 - ANALYSIS OF TRANSPORTATION NEEDS
The discussion covered the major areas of potential need
covered in the agreement; safety, maintenance, substandard
geometrics, and congestion.
If areas with substandard geometries are identified, options to correct the problems will
be identified, these may include road re-alignment. During
the discussion of congestion, Rudy Lukez asked what was
meant by levels of service c,d,e. Stan Nuffer gave a brief
description and said that detailed descriptions will be provided to members of the I.D. Team in a Technical Memo. Rudy
Lukez also asked how traffic projections were determined.
Stan Nuffer said that UDOT uses projections of population

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�prepared by local councils of governments and other agencies
who are charged with the task of preparing proj'ections of
that type.
TASK 2 - LOCATION STUDIES
The study area will include the roadway between Right Hand
Fork and Garden City.
The alternatives listed in the contract scope will be evaluated as well as others identified
during the course of the study. New roadway alignments may
also be considered from the summit to Garden City.
John
Neal asked what the termini of the project were.
FHWA must
approve the termini in order for the project to be eligible
for funding.
Lynn Zollinger said that Logan City to Garden
City had been proposed to the FWHA and he expects approval
shortly.
Since Logan to Right Hand Fork has already been
improved there would be no action considered on that stretch
of road.
Tom Haislip said that the development of the alternatives will be one of the biggest phases of the project.
Mapping was also discussed.
Existing mapping available
through UDOT will be used on the project wherever possible,
however adequate mapping is not available over the entire
route. As the mapping is completed, maps will be made
available to members of the I.D. Team.
TASK 3 - GEOTECHNICAL INVESTIGATIONS
The extent of the geotechnical investigations will be determined as alternatives are developed.
It is expected that
they will be needed primarily in areas where re-alignment is
considered.
Dave Baumgartner expressed concern about the role of the
I.D. Team in this study.
If the team is to be advisory
only, he does not think a satisfactory solution to identified problems can be found.
To be successful, the I.D. Team
should have a role in establishing study criteria and in
formulating recommendations. Other team members expressed
their views on the subject, and expressed their belief that
the I.D. Team would function in a manner that would lead to
a successful resolution of the transportation problems identified in the study.
TASK4 - PUBLIC AND AGENCY INVOLVEMENT
Sheldon Barker said that CH2M HILL would make three promises
in the public involvement program; (1) to be a good listener,
(2) to get input from all interested individuals and groups
and to treat each with respect, 3) when the report is prepared, it would contain no surprises because everyone had
been involved in the process.

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�The scoping process was also discussed.
It will include the
development of the project objective, holding informationai
meetings to educate the public, meetings with small groups
as well as large, preparation of a video tape, and maintaining a project office in Logan where interested parties could
come to obtain information on the project. Rudy Lukez suggested that information also be made available at the USU
Library and the Logan Public Library so that it would be
available during evening hours. Sheldon Barker said that
the suggestion was a good one and it will be implemented.
There was considerable discussion on the number and scheduling of meetings. Rudy Lukez did not feel that a lot of
meetings was necessarily a good thing. He used as an example
the recent meetings held by the Division of Water Resources
on the proposal to build a dam on the Bear River. Meetings
should be proceeded by 2 or 3 weeks of media coverage and
should be well prepared. Rudy was also not certain if there
would be any value to meeting with small groups because it
would not give people with differing views an opportunity to
hear the opinions of others. Sheldon Barker indicated that
the different views would come out in the larger public
meetings and that meeting with small groups would give the
project team the opportunity to better prepare for the larger
meetings. Rudy Lukez said that fall would be the best time
to hold the scoping meetings because more -people would be
able to attend.
TASK 5 - COORDINATION
Tom Haislip discussed the I.D. Team and its organization and
the need to have each member involved.
TASK 6 - ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSl-lENT
Tom Haislip said that the I.D. Team would playa key role in
the project by providing input and direction to the study
team. Tom also asked for help from the environmental community.
If there were any data or studies that are available
and not in UDOT files, they may be of great help in the study.
Rudy Lukez said that there was a study underway at USU investigating the impact that high speed traffic has on deer.
Tom Haislip indicated that field studies were not planned
because there is extensive information available. Tom also
explained that it is intended that Technical Memos be prepared presenting in detail the findings of each phase of the
study. After the I.D. Team has reviewed, discussed, and
revised the Technical Memos, the information would be summarized and placed in the report.

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�There was more discussion on the role of the I.D. Team.
Dave Baumgartner again expressed his concern that I.D. Team
members be in a position to do more than simply review conclusions and give their comments. Stan Nuffer said that
study data, methodology, and conclusions would all be presented to the I.D. Team and discussed before incorporating
anything into the report. Tom Haislip said that CH2M HILL's
job would be to the "doers" who would gather information,
review data and prepare Technical Memos for the I.D. Team.
The I.D. Team would then review and discuss the memos and
hopefully resolve any differences. Dave Baumgartner said
that it may be necessary for superiors in each agency to
resolve conflicts if they could not be handled on the I.D.
Team level.
He also indicated that the whole process would
work much better if each alternative developed offered a
real solution to the problems so that the alternative evaluation would be believable.
Todd Weston pointed out that the Forest Service, UDOT, and
FHWA must all agree to whatever solutions are presented in
the report.
If any of the three agencies disagree with the
findings, the project will never be completed.
In discussions at the end of the meeting, there was no agreement as to when the first public information meeting should
be held, or what purpose it should serve. After further
discussion, it was decided that the date of the first meeting
should be set after the next I.D. Team meeting.
It was recommended that a feature article on the project be prepared
for the Logan paper. This should be published prior to the
Logan public information meeting.
The next meeting will be held on Monday June 23, at
7:00 p.m. at District 1 headquarters in Ogden.
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                    <text>LOGAN CANYON
MINUTES OF ID TEAM MEETING
August 11, 1986
Attendance:
Gale Larson, Valley Engineering
Jack Spence, Cache Group Sierra Club
Steve Flint, Bridgerland Audobon Society
Rudy Lukez, Cache Group Sierra Club
Duncan Silver, FHWA
Todd Weston, UDOT
John Neil, UDOT
Jim Naegle, UDOT
Lynn Zollinger, UDOT
Howard Richardson, UDOT
Fred Labar, USFS
Stan Nuffer, CH2M HILL
Cliff Forsgren, CH2M HILL

Item 1 - Review of Minutes
A new name was added to the mailing list:
Randy Nielsen, Utah Wildlife Federation
160 Layton Drive
Salt Lake City, Utah 84115
(draft copy of the study only)
Item i-Review of Draft Traffic Tech Memo
The draft of the traffic forecast technical memorandum was
discussed.
Those committee members who had received the
memo had not had sufficient time to thoroughly review the
information it contained so the discussion was fairly
general.
Jack Spence thought that all of the data points needed to be
plotted and that the standard deviation and correlation coefficient should be shown also. Duncan Silver asked about
the design hour volume (DHV) and the directional split of
the traffic.
If the DHV and directional split are to be addressed in the capacity/level of service analysis, it should
be stated in this technical memorandum so that readers would
know where to find that information. Duncan also suggested
plotting the 100 highest hour volumes to see if 30th highest
hour (which is presently being used by UDOT), is the best
one to use as the basis for the DHV. Written comments on
the draft memorandum were requested by the next meeting.

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Todd Weston asked if it would be possible to get the information out sooner so that team members had a chance to
review it.
Item 3 - Review of Manual Traffic Counts
Gale Larson reported on the manual traffic counts taken on
July 19 and August 2. Summaries of the counts were given to
team members for their review.
Item 4 - Review of Maintenance Information

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Cliff Forsgren presented a summary of the evaluation of the
maintenance in the Canyon. The largest maintenance related
problem in the Canyon is snow removal. Portions of the Canyon are narrow with steep walls and the river is adjacent to
the road. The roadway in those areas has no shoulder and
there is nowhere to store or place the snow. Present practice is to plow all of the snow to one side of the road and
into the river. This procedure requires plows to move snow
across the traffic lanes. There was some discussion about
the desirability of this practice. Duncan Silver said that
there should be two criteria used in evaluating these procedures; 1) how is the public served and 2) how safe is the
procedure. Howard Richardson told a bit about the procedures and about the District's "bare road" snow removal
policy. Jack Spence asked how many times per year snowplows
would be moving snow across traffic lanes. The number will
vary depending upon the number of snow storms. Sometimes a
snow blower will be used to keep the road clear also. Snow
plow operators consider the present practice unsafe. Howard
Richardson invited any team members who would be interested
in a first hand evaluation to come and ride on one of the
plows this winter. Jack Spence asked how many accidents
have been caused by this procedure? It was not known if
there had been any. The options for alleviating the snow
removal problems would be to construct wider shoulders.
Flooding of the road was also discussed. Finding and disposing of suitable berm material is the biggest problem associated with protecting the road during high runoff. Fred
LaBar said that anchor ice above Ricks Springs had been responsible for flooding a number of years ago and that anchor
ice is a continuing problem in the river. Todd Weston asked
if plowing snow into the river could contribute to the buildup of anchor ice. Fred did not know for sure but thought
that it might.

S

Item % - Review of Accident Data
John Neil reported that the Safety Section had not released
the accident analysis runs yet. Jack Spence indicated that
the accident data needed to be analyzed for as many years as

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Silver said
that number
severity of

it was to be a meaningful evaluation. Duncan
that a goal should be statistical reliance and
of accidents was not as important as the
accidents.

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MINUTES OF ID TEAM MEETING
November 17, 1986

(
Attendance:

Cliff Forsgren, CH2M HILL
Fred LaBar, USFS
Clark Ostergarrd, USFS
Gale Larson, Valley Engineering
Duncan Silver, FHWA
John Neil, UDOT
Lynn Zollinger, UDOT
Jim Naegle, UDOT
Steve Flint, Audubon Assoc.
Item 1 - Review of Minutes
Two typographical errors were identified and Mark Shaw
pointed out that he was in attendance at the last meeting,
but was left off of the attendance list for the minutes.
Item 2 - Alternate Route Technical Memo
John Neil led the discussion of this item.
There was some
confusion about how the alternatives were defined.
The text
did not agree with the figure.
It was determined that the
most logical alternative was a combination of Alternate A
and Alternate B.
If an alternate route through Blacksmith
Fork Canyon were to be considered, a route from Hyrum to
Laketown through Hardware Ranch and Cottonwood Canyon would
appear to have the most promise.
It was agreed that the study of alternate routes should be
postponed until the fu~l transportation potential of Logan
Canyon (consistent with environmental constraints) was developed. John Neil made the motion to accept the memo, with
the alterations made in the meeting, and its recommendations.
Gale Larson seconded the motion and the voting was unanimous.
John will modify the memo to reflect the teams comments.
Item 3 - Public Involvement Summary Memorandum
Cliff Forsgren led the discussion of the memo which had been
prepared to summarize the public involvement program to date.
Ducan Silver suggested that the verbal comments received
during public meetings be summarized also.
Stan Nuffer asked
what sort of documentation the Forest Service would need
in order to be satisfied that there had been adequate public
participation. Fred LaBar said that the results of the
scoping meetings would be required before the Forest Service

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could do much to evaluate the progress of a public participation program.
Clark Ostergarrd suggested that there be some provision in
the memo to identify those comments directed towards preserving threatened and endangered species and maintaining
the River. Duncan Silver pointed out that there were not a
lot of differences in some of the column headings, for example
the two columns dealing with traffic flow ("Flow is Problem"
and "Improve Flow") and the two columns dealing with safety.
He also suggested showing the total number of responses in
each column.
Item 4 - Public Involvement/Scoping Meetings
Duncan Silver asked for a status report on the technical
memorandums which have been prepared to date. The status
report should indicate if they have been finaled and
approved. This report will be prepared for the next
meeting.
John Neil asked if a notice of intent was required for a
scoping meeting.
If a notice of intent is required, it
should be prepared as soon as possible if a meeting is to be
held in early January.
Stan will report to the team at the
next meeting on what the legal requirements are for notification of a scoping meeting.
Jim Naegle suggested holding the information sheet on "Issues
and Concerns" until after the scoping meetings. Steve Flint
pointed out some items that needed attention on the fact
sheet that had already been mailed. Table 1 needed some
clarification on how averages were determined during periods
when the counter was not in service and Table 2 had a mislabled footnote.
Steve was also concerned that some people
would not understand that a level of service D or E was not
for low or even average flow conditions, but represented
some percentage of time when flows were above the projected
average. More explanation of this concept will be included
in the next fact sheet.
Item 5 - Review of Existing Roadside Parking
Stan Nuffer presented an inventory of existing roadside
parking areas.
The parking areas were identified by milepost
and included both planned parking and "\vide spots" which
appeared to have been used for parking. This list of parking
areas was compiled in the summer and mayor may not represent
winter parking patterns. Fred LaBar said that the Forest
Service has an inventory of winter parking areas which he
will provide to the team members.

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Clark Ostergarrd said that it would be important to know
whether the parking areas were near the recreational feature
and which side of the road, relative to the River, they were
on. There are also areas that the Forest Service considers
problem areas and would just as soon not have parking nearby.
When alternates are developed, the information on location
of existing parking and need for planned parking will be
used to define the alternates.
ITEM 5 - Areas Meeting Criteria For Climbing Lanes
Stan Nuffer presented the results of an analysis of the need
for climbing lanes in the Canyon. AASHTO standards were
used as the evaluation criteria.
If AASHTO standards are
met, there would be a climbing lane the entire length of the
Canyon.
There was some discussion on the improvement in LOS that
might be expected with the placement of new climbing lanes.
Lynn Zollinger asked if there was anything in the standards
that addresseed the distance between the lanes. Jim Naegle
indicated that he thought that was dictated by the
conditions at the particular site.

(

Duncan Silver pointed out that climbing lanes are used to
improve the LOS and minimize speed reduction on upgrades.
If a climbing lane were constructed, the LOS would be raised
to C in that particular stretch of road.
However, when the
end of the lane was reached, the LOS would go back to D or
E.
It does not appear that the capacity problem can be
solved for the entire Canyon and that minimizing the speed
reduction where possible should be the priority.
Stan will
prepare a speed profile for the Canyon.
It was concluded that the team members do not believe that
LOS C can be attained through the entire Canyon.
If it were
possible to construct a climbing lane everywhere the climbing
lane criteria were met, LOS C would be possible, however
there are places where a third lane is unacceptable.
ITEM 7 - Introduction of Layout of Roadway Widening and
Alignment Improvement Component
Stan Nuffer discussed the widening and straightening component that will eventually be used, along with other components, to define alternatives. Lynn Zollinger asked if the
requirements for vertical sight distance had been checked.
Stan indicated that it was underway.
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                    <text>LOGAN CANYON ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY
MINUTES OF ID TEAM MEETING
December 8, 1986

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Attendance:

Cliff Forsgren, CH2M HILL
Stan Nuffer, CH2M HILL
Fred LaBar, USFS
Clark Ostergaard, USFS
Mark Shaw, USFS
Gale Larson, Valley Engineering
Duncan Silver, FHWA
John Neil, UDOT
Lynn Zollinger, UDOT
Jim Naegle, UDOT
Rudy Lukez, Sierra Club
Jack Spence, Sierra Club
Item I - Review of Minutes
Stan Nuffer conducted a revi~w of the minutes of the previous meeting.
Items that were not included in the minutes
and should have been were:
o

Item 5. The Forest Service is going to provide
the team members with a copy of the _
parking and
recreation master plan . .

o

Item 6. The first time "LOS" is used, it should '
be proceeded by Level of __
Service.

o

Item 6. The last sentence was changed to more
accurately reflect the fact that much of the Canyon
will not accommodate a climbing lane.

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In addition to the corrections, Duncan Silver clarified his
request .for a status report on the Technical Memorandums.
What he had in mind was a "scorecard" which simply listed
the subject and status (draft, received, approved, final). Jack Spence also asked for some clarification from the
Forest Service on their desire to reduce parking in some
areas of the Canyon. Fred LaBar indicated that there was a
need to maintain adequate parking for fishing and other
recreational purposes, but some types of parking, (hunters
for example) need to be better controlled.
Item 2 - Discussion of Issues and Concerns
Copies of written comments received to date were distributed
as were copies of the transcripts of the two public meetings.
Cliff Forsgren explained the way the comments are being tabulated. There is some difficulty in tabulating the verbal

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comments received at the public meetings because not all
speakers identified themselves.
It is possible that some
persons, who were not identified, spoke up at more than one
time and those views were tabulated on each occasion. Another difficulty is the best way to handle questions from
people who did not express a view.
The 1.0. Team members
were asked to review the transcripts and tabulations and
make any suggestions they might have.
Item 3 - Discussion of Schedule for Completion of the Scoping
Process
Stan Nuffer explained that the scoping requirements are different for the Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) than for
an Environmental Assessment (EA). There is a lengthy notification process for an EIS. Stan suggested that, if the
I.D. Team felt that an EIS would ultimately be required, the
EIS scoping process should be started.
Duncan Silver did not feel that there was enough environmental information available to make any kind of preliminary
determination on the need for an EIS. Clark Ostergaard indicated that he would like to know if there was critical
spawning habitat in the River that might be impacted by some
alternatives. Jack Spence pointed out that in maintaining
the Forest Service visual standards, the· improvements that
were possible may not be significant enough to require an
EIS. After considerable discussion it was decided that the
environmental inventories describing
the affected environment need to be reviewed in a manner
similar to the previous, techn~cal ,~~morandums. ~fter there
memorandums have been reviewed, a determination of the
appropriate scoping process could be made.
During the discussion, Duncan Silver also indicated that
tFHWA would probably review the final document (EA of EIS) as
if it were as EIS. Jim Naegle said that information would
be helpful to UDOT because it appeared that there would be 'a
. lengthy review period regardless of the type of final report.
Item 4 - Update of Final Visual Classification
Clark Ostergaard presented some updated information on visual
classifications in the Canyon. He brought his latest mapping
effort that showed the visual classifications between Right
Fork and Ricks Springs. Duncan Silver asked if the visual
retention criteria allowed for "upgrades" in one area to
offset "downgrades" in another. For example, if as a result
of the roadway improvements, a portion of road that had a
classification of 2 was raised to 3, would it be possible at
another location to allow a 5 before construction to be a 4
after.
Clark was not sure how to address that and would
have an answer for the next meeting.

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Item 5 - Layouts for Component Widening and Alignment Improv.ement from Ricks Springs to Garden City
Stan Nuffer reviewed the plan and profile of the widening
and alignment improvement component from Ricks Springs to
Garden City. Much of this component has a climbing lane.
Lynn Zollinger said that if a climbing lane were to be constructed, intersections would also require special
attention.
NOTE: Prior to the beginning of the meeting John Ellsworth
from Utah State University made a presentation of a computer
simulation technique for depicting topographic modifications.
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                    <text>LOGAN CANYON ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY .
MINUTES OF ID TEAM MEETING
January 27, 1987

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Attendance:
Sheldon Barker, CH2M HILL
Stan Nuffer, CH2M HILL
Torn Haislip, CH2M HILL
Fred LaBar, USFS
Mark Shaw, USFS
Clark Ostergaard, USFS
Gale Larson, Valley Engineering
Duncan Silver, FHWA
Jim Naegle, UDOT
Lynn Zollinger, UDOT
Howard Richardson, UDOT
Steve Flint, Audobon Assoc.
Bill Helm,
Item 1 - Review of Minutes
There were no cornnlents on the minutes of the previous meeting.

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Steve Flint expressed concern over the traffic forecast and
felt that an exponential forecast is not statistically
supportable from the traffic data for the Logan Canyon
stations shown in the technical memorandum. He was also
concerned that level of service projections based on that
growth rate would be misleading. He suggested a time series
analysis and using data as far back as available.
Stan
Nuffer reviewed the methods and assumptions used when the
technical memorandum was presented and accepted by the
I.D. Team in August 1986.
In the original analysis, we had
looked at a number of areas to forecast growth including
traffic data for a number of highways including stations on
U.S. 89 outside of the Canyon. Also data from regional
economic and local land use forecasting was used, which
forecast a growth rate in the 2 percent range. All of these
sources of data were used to arrive at the proposed rate.
Concern has been expressed that the 2 percent rate was too
low when compared against projections made by UDOT in the
past. After considerable discussion, a motion was passed
with one negative vote to retain at 2 percent (1.95)
experimental growth rate.
Stan agreed to look at what
effect differences in the projected ADT would have in
capacity determinations.
Steve also suggested that Section 2 be broken into two subsections, for capacity analysis which will be considered.
The assumption for one percent buses in the traffic needs to
be supported by data or dropped. Lynn Zollinger suggested
we check with Idaho and Wyoming on what projections they are
using.
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Duncan Silver asked what process will be used in determining
visual impacts, and if there are any rules or guidelines
that can be followed.
Clark Qstergaard ·said that the · existing analysis shows what is there and what should be preserv~d.
Each area will have to be handled on a case-by-case basis
for each of the alternatives. Mitigation measures may be
possible in some areas.
Due to the length of discussion on the above items, agenda
items 2 and 3 were passed over.
Items 2 and 3
Time was not available to review in the meeting.
bers encouraged to read the material.

Team mem-

Item 4 - Continued Discussion of Alternatives
Stan distributed a revised copy of the component and alternative development matrix showing the elimination of some
alternates and modification of components in other.
After
considerable discussion the following alternates were agreed
upon:
Middle Canyon

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Alt
Alt
Alt
Alt

1
2

3

4

No build
Spot improvements
Widen along existing alignment
Widen and. improve align to 40 mph with
advising 35 mph design where necessary

Upper Canyon
Alt 1
Alt 2
Alt 4

No build
Spot improvements
Widen and improve existing alignment to
60 mph with lower advisory design speed
where necessary

Rich County
Alt 1
Alt 2
Alt 4
Alt 6

No build
Spot improvements
Widen and improve existing alignment to
40 mph with lower advisory design speed
where necessary
New north alignment with 40 mph basic
but look at 50 mph if possible

Spot improvements should be defined by location and improvement.

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Fred LaBar was skeptical that a uniform 40 mph design in the
middle Canyon would ever be acceptable to the Forest
Service.
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                    <text>LOGAN CANYON
MINUTES OF ID TEAM MEETING
November 3, 1986

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Attendance "
:

Stan Nuffer, CH2M HILL
Cliff Forsgren,CH2M HILL
Fred LaBar, USFS
Clark Ostergarrd, USFS
Dave Baumgartner, USFS
Gale Larson, Valley Engineering
Duncan Silver, FHWA
John Neil, UDOT
Lynn Zollinger, UDOT
Jim Naegle, UDOT
Steve Flint, Audubon Assoc.
Jack Spence, Sierra Club
Rudy Lukez, Sierra Club
Wendell Anderson - Visitor
Willis Tingey - Visitor
Item 1 - Review of Minutes

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Stan Nuffer lead the discussion on the minutes of the last
team meeting.
The only item brought up related to the Safety
Tech memo. Jack Spence suggested that it would be better to
state that some locations along the highway had higher than
average accident rates rather than higher than expected accident rates, since there was really no way of determining
expected accident rates. Jack also had a suggestion on
Table 10. If the level of confidence was going to be included as part of the table, there should be some explanation
of what it meant. Steve Flint asked that the number of fatalities be included on Table 8, along with the number of fatal
accidents.
There was no other discussion on the minutes of the previous
meeting.
Item 2 - Discussion of Alternate Routes (to Logan Canyon)
John Neil reported on his study of alternate routes from
Logan to Bear Lake. He had invited Mr. Wendell Anderson and
Mr. Willis Tingey to report on a study that they had made on
the possibility of a route through Blacksmith Fork Canyon.
The study was conducted at the request of former Governor
Clyde.
It was pointed out that a route from Logan to Sage
Junction through Blacksmith Fork Canyon was 8 to 10 miles
shorter and the maximum elevation was 500 feet lower than
the existing route through Logan Canyon. Both Mr. Anderson
and Mr. Tingey felt that Logan Canyon would not be able to
handle all of the traffic that it would be asked to handle
and that an alternate route should be considered.
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�John Neil reported that UDOT planners had told him that the
simplest way to develop an alternate route would be to develop some additional recreational areas that needed the
access. The construction cost of an alternate route was
estimated at $1.5 to $2.0 million per mile.
Lynn Zollinger agreed that Logan Canyon will not be able to
carryall of the traffic that will ultimately travel between
Bear Lake and the Wasatch Front. However it has not been
determined how much more, if any, traffic Logan Canyon can
handle before the impacts become unacceptable. Lynn suggested that there not be any more consideration of alternate
routes, at least until it has been determined that there
will be need for more capacity than Logan Canyon can carry.
Jack Spence agreed with Lynn, there did not seem to be the
need for additional capacity at the present and that study
of alternate routes was not warranted.
If it was determined
that there was major action of the same scale required in
Logan Canyon then the examination of alternate routes would
be warranted.
Other discussion about the Blacksmith Fork alternate involved
possible environmental problems with the River, Hardware
Ranch and the lack of room in Left Hand Fork.
It was decided
that this discussion would be summarized for the record in a
memo and action to be taken at the next meeting.

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Item 3 - Discussion of Goals and Objectives Tech Memo
Stan Nuffer lead the discussion of the overall goals and
objectives that had been presented in a draft technical memorandum at the last ID team meeting. The first topic · was
the minimum speed that the "baseline" alternative would be
designed for.
There was some question about a 35 mph mini, mum in the lower part of the canyon. Fred LaBar said that a
40 mph minimum speed had been considered before in that section and had been found to be acceptable. Jim Naegle asked
if the modified standard section had been used in the previous study. Some thought that it had but none were certain.
Duncan Silver suggested that copies of the 1979 proposal and
analysis be distributed to members of the ID team so that
the team had an opportunity to review the past work and decide whether the past study was still valid. This approach
would be better than just rubber stamping a study that most
on the team were not familiar with.
It was also suggested that the AASHTO recommended minimums
be included in the table on page 3 of the memo. Rudy Lukes
asked where there would be minimum speeds greater than 40 mgh.
Stan Nuffer said that in some areas the posted speed is currently 55 mph and that he thought we could maintain that
speed in those areas.

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There was also some discussion on what "minimum" meant.
Some expressed concern that the minimum set now would be
absolute regardless of other consequences. Stan explained
that in order to establish roadway features (curves, etc.)
minimum speeds needed to be set. If the impacts of designing a roadway for one "minimum" are unacceptable then a new
"minimum" speed would be required. Minimum speeds are not
meant to be fixed at the beginning of the study and then not
redefined if needed.
The technical memo illustrated standard sections and modified
standard sections for 40 mph.
It was suggested that sections
for 35 and 55 mph also be included.
Steve Flint expressed concern that delineators would make
parking areas unuseable. Duncan Silver said that the need
for parking should be evaluated and planned for where
needed.
Rudy Lukes wondered if the dugway was really a good place to
consider a climbing lane. Duncan Silver said that there
should be an inventory of the needs for climbing lanes
before looking at possible locations. To conduct the
inventory the team should:
1.

Establish criteria for the selection of possible
locations.

2.

Identify those sections which may meet the
criteria.

3.

Identify the possible environmental constraints at
those sites.

Slow vehicle turnouts were also discussed. Lynn Zollinger
indicated that the turnouts need to be placed where those
using the turnouts will have a good view of the roadway
in order to safely get out of and back into the traffic.
The final item on the goals and objectives memo was a suggestion to add a section on the need for recreational parking.
Fred LaBar said that the Forest Service could help identify
where recreational parking was needed.
Item 4 - Alternate Alignments from the Summit to Garden City
Stan Nuffer said that the Archeologist was preparing an
alternate alignments survey.

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�- Item 5 - Preview of Garden City Public Meeting Presentation

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Cliff Forsgren previewed the slide presentation which was to
be used to introduce the project to those who attended the
meeting in Garden City.
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                    <text>L0~AN CANYON
MINUTES OF ID TEAM MEETING
September 22, 1986

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Attendance:

Stan Nuffer, CH2M HILL
John D'Amico, CH~M HILL
Cliff Forsgren,CH2M HILL
Duncan Silver, FHWA
Fred LaBar, USFS
Mark Shaw, USFS
Clark Ostergard, USFS
Gale Larson, Valley Engineering
John Neil, UDOT
Jim Naegle, UDOT
Howard Richardson, UDOT
Rudy Lukez, Sierra Club
Item 1 - Review of Minutes
Cliff Forsgren indicated that there had been some inconsistencies discovered in the accident rate calculations and
that it would be better to hold off on presenting any information to the public until the questions were answered.
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Item 2 - Traffic Characteristics
Stan Nuffer lead the discussion of the Traffic Characteristics
Technical Memorandum. During the discussion Rudy Lukez questioned the statement about the winter traffic count representing a "background" traffic flow. After some discussion,
Duncan Silver wondered if the issues of background flow was
really relevant to the study. Duncan asked that it be made
clearer in the memorandum which flows were winter, which
were summer and which were annual.
It was concluded in the memorandum that the Design Hourly
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It was also noted that the 14 percent figure tracks
very closely with other recreational roads.
Item 3 - Traffic Capacity
Cliff Forsgren presented the results of the traffic capacity
analysis.
It was pointed out that the primary purpose of
the analysis was to try to describe the conditions that
exist in the Canyon under various traffic volumes. To do
this, a Level of Service approach was used. Levels of
service from A to E were examined. It was determined that
all sections of the road offer a level of service D at the
present time and that by the year 2010 level E would be

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�experienced in most of the Canyon. Rudy Lukez asked if level
of service D was really undesireable. Cliff indicated that
a desired level of service would need to be established as a
goal and that this had not been done. Before alternatives
can be developed this must be accomplished.
Item 4 - Miscellaneous
Duncan Silver felt that there needed to be a list developed
of general environmental factors.
This should be completed
before the development of alternatives begins. Stan Nuffer
indicated that the environmental team is gathering information and there should be some basic understanding before
serious alternative development began.
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