1 50 12 https://highway89.org/files/original/607f9e0aa669bbf32ba04003c3770414.pdf 1abebd82dd16fa4cfb0e4eac1cd71a88 PDF Text Text LOGAN CANYON ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT MINUTES OF INTERDISCIPLINE TEAM MEETING June 10, 1986 ( ATTENDANCE: Lynn Zollinger - UDOT Jim Naegle - UDOT John Ne ~ l - UDOT Gale Larson - Valley Engineering Rudy Lukez - Cache Group Sierra Club Todd G. Weston - UDOT Al Stilley - Northern Engineering & Testing Dave Baumgartner - USFS-Logan Stan Nuffer - CH2M HILL Cliff Forsgren - CH2M HILL Duncan Silver - FHWA Howard Richardson - UDOT Sheldon Barker - CH2M HILL Tom Haislip - CH2M HILL John D'Amico - CH2M HILL Frank Grover - USFS-SLC Steve Flint - Bridgerland Audobon Association Stan Nuffer called the meeting to order and asked members of the group to introduce themselves. Following the introductions, some of the members were asked to briefly describe their views of the project and its objectives. Jim Naegle indicated that UDOT wants a thorough investigation and has no preconceived idea as to what, if anything, should be done in the canyon. He expressed appreciation for the interest of the environmental community and the public in general. He also wants members of the 1.0. Team to have full input into all phases of the project. The most serious problems in the canyon presently are narrow and obsolete bridges which are in need of repair or replacement. Lynn Zollinger explained that UDOT has a responsibility to the traveling public to provide safe, efficient transportation. UDOT wants to satisfy the needs of the traveling public and the environmental community. He expects an openminded study with adequate input from all of the interested public. Dave Baumgartner said that the rules of the environmental "ball game" have changed since the '70's. A successful study is dependant upon public support and understanding. This project will be a challenging one and standard solutions will probably not work in every instance. I 1 �( Todd Weston stated that he does not have any notion that there will ever be a freeway or a 4-lane highway through the canyon. He feels that there are more problems in the canyon than old bridges and the study must address those problems without being locked into one concept. He does expect ideas to improve transportation can be implemented. Rudy Lukez stated that there are many personal feelings about the canyon and that some people will be upset if there is a large construction project in it. The canyon is an environmentally sensitive area and there is a need for careful study and analysis before any work can begin. The environmental community desires to be kept informed. Rudy also expressed concern that meetings held during the day may be difficult for those who work elsewhere to attend. Steve Flint stated that there were many people who questioned the transportation needs in the canyon. Stan Nuffer then explained the I.D. Team and the role of each I.D. Team member. The I.D. Team is to function as the group which reviews scope, data, methodology and conclusions of the study and determines whether each stage of the study adequately addresses the 'critical issues and meets the objectives of the study. Gale Larson said that Valley Engineering's office in Logan will be the local contact point and someone will be available for questions at least 10 hours per week. Valley Engineering will also perform the field surveys and traffic counts. Some traffic counts were conducted during the ski season in order to have the information available for the study this summer. Gale expects to work closely with Sheldon Barker with the public involvement task work. Stan Nuffer then introduced the Scope of Work, as included in the consulting agreement between UDOT and CH2M HILL, and led the discussion on the tasks outlined in the agreement. Task 1 - ANALYSIS OF TRANSPORTATION NEEDS The discussion covered the major areas of potential need covered in the agreement; safety, maintenance, substandard geometrics, and congestion. If areas with substandard geometrics are identified, options to correct the problems will be identified, these may include road re-alignment. During the discussion of congestion, Rudy Lukez asked what was meant by levels of service c,d,e. Stan Nuffer gave a brief description and said that detailed descriptions will be provided to members of the I.D. Team in a Technical Memo. Rudy Lukez also asked how traffic projections were determined. Stan Nuffer said that UDOT uses projections of population 2 �( prepared by local councils of governments and other agencies who are charged with the task of preparing proiections of that type. TASK 2 - LOCATION STUDIES The study area will include the roadway between Right Hand Fork and Garden City. The alternatives listed in the contract scope will be evaluated as well as others identified during the course of the study. New roadway alignments may also be considered from the summit to Garden City. John Neal asked what the termini of the project were. FHWA must approve the termini in order for the project to be eligible for funding. Lynn Zollinger said that Logan City to Garden City had been proposed to the FWHA and he expects approval shortly. Since Logan to Right Hand Fork has already been improved there would be no action considered on that stretch of road. Tom Haislip said that the development of the alternatives will be one of the biggest phases of the project. Mapping was also discussed. Existing mapping available through UDOT will be used on the project wherever possible, however adequate mapping is · not available over the entire route. As the mapping is completed, maps will be made available to members of the 1.0. Team. TASK 3 - GEOTECHNICAL INVESTIGATIONS ( The extent of the geotechnical investigations will be determined as alternatives are developed. It is expected that they will be needed primarily in areas where re-alignment is considered. Dave Baumgartner expressed concern about the role of the I.D. ream in this study. If the team is to be advisory only, he does not think a satisfactory solution to identified problems can be found. To be successful, the I.D. Team should have a role in establishing study criteria and in formulating recommendations. Other team members expressed their views on the subject, and expressed their belief that the 1.0. Team would function in a manner that would lead to a successful resolution of the transportation problems identified in the study. TASK4 - PUBLIC AND AGENCY INVOLVEMENT Sheldon Barker said that CH2M HILL would make three promises in the public involvement program; (1) to be a good listener, (2) to get input from all interested individuals and groups and to treat each with respect, 3) when the report is prepared, it would contain no surprises because everyone had been involved in the process. 3 �. ( ( The scoping process was also discussed. It will include the development of the project objective, holding informationai meetings to educate the public, meetings with small groups as well as large, preparation of a video tape, and maintaining a project office in Logan where interested parties could come to obtain information on the project. Rudy Lukez suggested that information also be made available at the USU Library and the Logan Public Library so that it would be available during evening hours. Sheldon Barker said that the suggestion was a good one and it will be implemented. There was considerable discussion on the number and scheduling of meetings. Rudy Lukez did not feel that a lot of meetings was necessarily a good thing. He used as an example the recent meetings held by the Division of Water Resources on the proposal to build a dam on the Bear River. Meetings should be proceeded by 2 or 3 weeks of media coverage and should be well prepared. Rudy was also not certain if there would be any value to meeting with small groups because it would not' give people with differing views an opportunity to hear the opinions of others. Sheldon Barker indicated that the different views would come out in the larger public meetings and that meeting with small groups would give the project team the opportunity to better prepare for the larger meetings. Rudy Lukez said that fall would be the best time to hold the scoping meetings because more people would be able to attend. ( . TASK 5 - COORDINATION Tom Haislip discussed the 1.0. Team and its organization and the need to have each member involved. TASK 6 - ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESS~lENT Tom Haislip said that the 1.0. Team would playa key role in the project by providing input and direction to the study team. Tom also asked for help from the environmental community. If there were any data or studies that are available and not in UDOT files, they may be of great help in the study. Rudy Lukez said that there was a study underway at USU investigating the impact that high speed traffic has on deer. Tom Haislip indicated that field studies were not planned because there is extensive information available. Tom also explained that it is intended that Technical Memos be prepared presenting in detail the findings of each phase of the study. After the 1.0. Team has reviewed, discussed, and revised the Technical Memos, the information would be summarized and placed in the report. 4 �( There was more discussion on the role of the 1.0. Team. Dave Baumgartner again expressed his concern that 1.0. Team members be in a position to do more than simply review conclusions and give their comments. Stan Nuffer said that study data, methodology, and conclusions would all be presented to the I.D. Team and discussed before incorporating anything into the report. Tom Haislip said that CH2M HILL's job would be to the "doers" who would gather information, review data and prepare Technical Memos for the I.D. Team. The I.D. Team would then review and discuss the memos and hopefully resolve any differences. Dave Baumgartner said that it may be necessary for superiors in each agency to resolve conflicts if they could not be handled on the I.D. Team level. He also indicated that the whole process would work much better if each alternative developed offered a real solution to the problems so that the alternative evaluation would be believable. Todd Weston pointed out that the Forest Service, UDOT, and rHWA must all agree to whatever solutions are presented in the report. If any of the three agencies disagree with the findings, the project will never be completed. ( In discussions at the end of the meeting, there was no agreement as to when the first public information meeting should be held, or what purpose it should serve. After further discussion, it was decided that the date of the first meeting should be set after the next I.D. Team meeting. It was recommended that a feature article on "the project be prepared for the Logan paper. This should be published prior to the Logan public information meeting. The next meeting will be held on Monday June 23, at 7:00 p.m. at District 1 headquarters in Ogden. SLC73/39 ( 5 � Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. 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Naegle, Jim Zollinger, Lynn Baumgartner, David Weston, Todd Lukez, Rudy Flint, Steve Larson, Gale Neal, John Barker, Sheldon Haislip, Thomas Subject The topic of the resource Logan Canyon (Utah) Traffic engineering Medium The material or physical carrier of the resource. Administrative records Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1986-06-10 Spatial Coverage Spatial characteristics of the resource. Logan Canyon (Utah) Utah United States Temporal Coverage Temporal characteristics of the resource. 1980-1989 20th century Language A language of the resource eng Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Sierra Club, Utah Chapter Archives, 1972-1986, COLL MSS 148 Series VIII Box 27 Folder 3 Is Referenced By A related resource that references, cites, or otherwise points to the described resource. 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Highway 89 Digital Collections Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource application/pdf Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context MSS148VIIIB27_Fd3_Page_4.pdf Highway 89; https://highway89.org/files/original/915af361a8c48ff09aa639eb706c566e.pdf 1de2ef4eaf6e9e963be28c17bf74447e PDF Text Text LOGAN CANYON MINUTES OF ID TEAM MEETING October 20, 1986 Attendance: Stan Nuffer, CH2M HILL Cliff Forsgren,CH2M HILL Fred LaBar, USFS Gale Larson, Valley Engineering Duncan Silver, FHWA John Neil, UDOT Lynn Zollinger, UDOT Rudy Lukez, Sierra Club Al Stilley, Northern Engineering Item 1 - Review of Minutes Stan Nuffer led the discussion of the minutes of the previous ID team meeting. Rudy Lukez referred to the questions on the 1930's traffic data that had been discussed during the last ID team meeting. Rudy said that his interest in the data was curiosity only and he did not think that it would be of any value in the present work. ( Duncan Silver asked for some clarification of the visual criteria. He also felt that there should be some discussion on how the criteria , were developed and used. Clark Ostergaard, who prepared the information on visual criteria, was not present and the question was deferred until the next meeting. Rudy Lukez asked Fred LaBar if the Forest Service wanted to have more camping spaces in the Canyon? Fred said that there is a proposed group camping site in the Beaver Creek area. The camp site will hold between 200 and 300 campers. If the money was available, the site would be constructed as soon as they could get someone on site to build it. Fred also said that the Beaver Mountain Ski Area had plans to increase their camping sites. Lynn Zollinger asked if there was information available on the expected increase in camping and skiing. Fred said that he would get the information for Lynn. Duncan Silver asked if the increase in skiing would impact the DHV. Since skiing occurs during the low traffic volume period, there would be no impact on the DHV. There was also some discussion of the possibility of electric power reaching some private land in Stump Hollow and Utah State University's plans to expand some University facilities in the Canyon. 1 �Item 2 - Discussion of Safety Analysis Technical Memo ( The Safety Analysis Technical Memo was discussed. Duncan Silver asked if it would be necessary to look at individual sites if the entire road was brought up to standard. Cliff Forsgren answered that in most cases it would probably not be necessary to look at individual sites'. Duncan then suggested that individual sites be given a detailed examination only if spot improvements were considered in a given area. Item 3 - Study Goals and Objectives Stan Nuffer introduced the subject and led the discussion. A handout listing goals and objectives for component and alternative development was distributed. This included illustrations of existing, standard and modified standard cross sections. An outline of possible alternate components was also distributed. Duncan Silver was not certain how the environmental constraints would fit into the development of alternates. It was pointed out that the visual criteria was nearly completed and the environmental constraints would be developed concurrently with the component and alternative development. ( There was a lot of discussion on how alternates should be developed and what the overall goal should be. It was pointed out that if significant improvements were to be constructed, the goal would be to achieve a level of service C for the year 2010, realizing that it would probably not be possible in every case. Duncan Silver suggested that a "standard" roadway be designed, with LOS C throughout the Canyon. Where that was not environmentally possible, alternates could be developed to improve the road as much as possible without damaging the environment. Stan Nuffer suggested that the "modified standard" which was used in the lower part of the canyon be used to prepare a • "baseline" alternate. Duncan Silver pointed out that the modified standard did not allow the drainage and other maintenance features needed to protect the road base. Lynn Zollinger said that UDOT would accept the modified standard in order to maintain continuity along the roadway. Rudy Lukez made a motion that CH2M HILL develop a baseline alternate using the modified standard. Duncan Silver wanted to be certain that UDOT understood that using a modified standard meant sacrificing maintenance standards which might impact the road. He also said that the decision to use a modified standard as the baseline must be well documented. Dismissing highway standards without adequately addressing them can be challenged just as easily as dismissing environmental problems without adequate study. 2 �( There was also some discussion of the design speed. Stan Nuffer suggested a minimum design speed of 40 mph except in the first 7 or 8 miles where Fred LaBar said the Forest Service has already evaluated a 40 mph speed limit and found it unacceptable. It was finally determined that a modified standard section, with a design speed of between 35 and .40 mph, depending upon conditions within the Canyon, be used as the baseline alternate. Item 4 - Discussion of Geotechnical Investigations Al Stilley, from Northern Engineering and Testing, gave a report on the geologic mapping and the drilling program which was just getting underway on the alternative alignments from Bear Lake Summit to Garden City. Areas along the existing alignment where improvements could be made will also be investigated. Item 5 - Alternate Routes to Logan Canyon John Neil reported that he had been given the assignment to look at alternate routes to Logan Canyon. John said that he was just beginning his study. Rudy Lukez suggested that John contact a Mr. Wendall Anderson in Logan. Mr. Anderson is apparently familiar with some previous studies investigating a route through Blacksmith Fork Canyon ( The next meeting will be held at the Ranger District office in Logan at 3:00 p.m., prior to the public meeting in Garden City at 7:00 p.m. SLC-STN/03 3 � Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Local URL The URL of the local directory containing all assets of the website <a href="http://digital.lib.usu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/highway89/id/41">http://digital.lib.usu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/highway89/id/41</a> Purchasing Information Describe or link to information about purchasing copies of this item. To order photocopies, scans, or prints of this item for fair use purposes, please see Utah State University's Reproduction Order Form at: <a href="https://library.usu.edu/specol/using/copies.php">https://library.usu.edu/specol/using/copies.php</a> Digital Publisher List the name of the entity that digitized and published this item online. Digitized by: Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library Date Digital Record the date the item was digitized. 2013 Conversion Specs Scanned by Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library using Epson Expression 10000 scanner, at 800 dpi. Archival file is PDF (800 dpi), display file is JPEG2000. Checksum 1272711171 File Size Size of the file in bytes. 2030189 Bytes Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Minutes from October 20, 1986 Interdisciplinary Team meeting Description An account of the resource Minutes from October 20, 1986 Interdisciplinary Team meeting. Review of minutes, discussion of satety analysis technical memo, study of goals and objectives, discussion of geotechnical investigations, and alternate routes to Logan Canyon. Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource LaBar, Fred Larson, Gale Silver, Duncan Neil, John Zollinger, Lynn Lukez, Rudy Stilley, Al Forsgren, Clifford Nuffer, Stanton S. Subject The topic of the resource United States Highway 89 Traffic engineering Logan Canyon Study Medium The material or physical carrier of the resource. Administrative records Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1986-10-22 Spatial Coverage Spatial characteristics of the resource. Logan Canyon (Utah) Utah United States Cache County (Utah) Temporal Coverage Temporal characteristics of the resource. 1980-1989 20th century Language A language of the resource eng Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Sierra Club, Utah Chapter Archives, 1972-1986, COLL MSS 148 Series VIII Box 27 Folder 2 Is Referenced By A related resource that references, cites, or otherwise points to the described resource. 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Highway 89 Digital Collections Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource application/pdf Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context MSS148VIIIB27_Fd2_Page_11.pdf Highway 89; https://highway89.org/files/original/4038b7921c9612c213b6165be6f65f44.pdf e4730b7646d6b520ab44b840022ec1c5 PDF Text Text 'i ClOd HIll MEMORANDUM TO: Interdisciplinary Team FROM: Stan Nuffer DATE: June 19, 1986 SUBJECT: Logan Canyon Environmental Study PROJECT: B21163.AO Your attendance and participation in the first Interdisciplinary Team meeting held on June 10, 1986 was appreciated. Enclosed are minutes of the meeting for your review, and an agenda for the next meeting on June 23, at 2:00 p.m. at the UDOT District office in Ogden. We look forward to seeing you there. BOC5/025 slc76/d.101 �AGENDA - LOGAN CANYON STUDY INTERDISCIPLINARY STUDY TEAM MEETING NO. 2 - OGDEN, UTAH JUNE 23, 1986 - 7:00 p.m. 1. Review minutes of June 10, meeting. 2. Discussion of role of interdisciplinary team. 3. Discussion of Level of Documentation required by NEPA for environmental studies. 4. Public involvement program outline. 5. Schedule of interdisciplinary team meetings. BOC5/026 slc76/d.102 �LOGAN CANYON ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT MINUTES OF INTERDISCIPLINE TEAM MEETING June 10, 1986 ATTENDANCE: Lynn Zollinger - UDOT Jim Naegle - UDOT John Neal - UDOT Gale Larson - Valley Engineering Rudy Lukez - Cache Group Sierra Club Todd G. Weston - UDOT Al Stilley - Northern Engineering & Testing Dave Baumgartner - USFS-Logan Stan Nuffer - CH2M HILL Cliff Forsgren - CH2M HILL Duncan Silver - FHWA Howard Richardson - UDOT Sheldon Barker - CH2M HILL Tom Haislip - CH2M HILL John D'Amico - CH2M HILL Frank Grover - USFS-SLC Steve Flint - Bridgerland Audobon Association Stan Nuffer called the meeting to order and asked members of the group to introduce themselves. Following the introductions, some of the members were asked to briefly describe their views of the project and its objectives. Jim Naegle indicated that UDOT wants a thorough investigation and has no preconceived idea as to what, if anything, should be done in the canyon. He expressed appreciation for the interest of the environmental cowmunity and the public in general. He also wants members of the I.D. Team to have full input into all phases of the project. The most serious problems in the canyon presently are narrow and obsolete bridges which are in need of repair or replacement. Lynn Zollinger explained that UDOT has a responsibility to the traveling public to provide safe, efficient transportation. UDOT wants to satisfy the needs of the traveling public and the environmental community. He expects an openminded study with adequate input from all of the interested public. Dave Baumgartner said that the rules of the environmental "ball game" have changed since the '70's. A successful study is dependant upon public support and understanding. This project will be a challenging one and standard solutions will probably not work in every instance. 1 �Todd Weston stated that he does not have any notion that there will ever be a freeway or a 4-lane highway through the canyon. He feels that there are more problems in the canyon than old bridges and the study must address those problems without being locked into one concept. He does expect ideas to improve transportation can be implemented. Rudy Lukez stated that there are many personal feelings about the canyon and that some people will be upset if there is a large construction project in it. The canyon is an environmentally sensitive area and there is a need for careful study and analysis before any work can begin. The environmental community desires to be kept informed. Rudy also expressed concern that meetings held during the day may be difficult for those who work elsewhere to attend. Steve Flint stated that there were many people who questioned the transportation needs in the canyon. Stan Nuffer then explained the I.D. Team and the role of each I.D. Team member. The I.D. Team is to function as the group which reviews scope, data, methodology and conclusions of the study and determines whether each stage of the study adequately addresses the critical issues and meets the objectives of the study. Gale Larson said that Valley Engineering's office in Logan will be the local contact point and someone will be available for questions at least 10 hours per week. Valley Engineering will also perform the field surveys and traffic counts. Some traffic counts were conducted during the ski season in order to have the information available for the study this summer. Gale expects to work closely with Sheldon Barker with the public involvement task work. Stan Nuffer then introduced the Scope of Work, as included in the consulting agreement between UDOT and CH2M HILL, and led the discussion on the tasks outlined in the agreement. Task 1 - ANALYSIS OF TRANSPORTATION NEEDS The discussion covered the major areas of potential need covered in the agreement; safety, maintenance, substandard geometrics, and congestion. If areas with substandard geometries are identified, options to correct the problems will be identified, these may include road re-alignment. During the discussion of congestion, Rudy Lukez asked what was meant by levels of service c,d,e. Stan Nuffer gave a brief description and said that detailed descriptions will be provided to members of the I.D. Team in a Technical Memo. Rudy Lukez also asked how traffic projections were determined. Stan Nuffer said that UDOT uses projections of population 2 �prepared by local councils of governments and other agencies who are charged with the task of preparing proj'ections of that type. TASK 2 - LOCATION STUDIES The study area will include the roadway between Right Hand Fork and Garden City. The alternatives listed in the contract scope will be evaluated as well as others identified during the course of the study. New roadway alignments may also be considered from the summit to Garden City. John Neal asked what the termini of the project were. FHWA must approve the termini in order for the project to be eligible for funding. Lynn Zollinger said that Logan City to Garden City had been proposed to the FWHA and he expects approval shortly. Since Logan to Right Hand Fork has already been improved there would be no action considered on that stretch of road. Tom Haislip said that the development of the alternatives will be one of the biggest phases of the project. Mapping was also discussed. Existing mapping available through UDOT will be used on the project wherever possible, however adequate mapping is not available over the entire route. As the mapping is completed, maps will be made available to members of the I.D. Team. TASK 3 - GEOTECHNICAL INVESTIGATIONS The extent of the geotechnical investigations will be determined as alternatives are developed. It is expected that they will be needed primarily in areas where re-alignment is considered. Dave Baumgartner expressed concern about the role of the I.D. Team in this study. If the team is to be advisory only, he does not think a satisfactory solution to identified problems can be found. To be successful, the I.D. Team should have a role in establishing study criteria and in formulating recommendations. Other team members expressed their views on the subject, and expressed their belief that the I.D. Team would function in a manner that would lead to a successful resolution of the transportation problems identified in the study. TASK4 - PUBLIC AND AGENCY INVOLVEMENT Sheldon Barker said that CH2M HILL would make three promises in the public involvement program; (1) to be a good listener, (2) to get input from all interested individuals and groups and to treat each with respect, 3) when the report is prepared, it would contain no surprises because everyone had been involved in the process. 3 �The scoping process was also discussed. It will include the development of the project objective, holding informationai meetings to educate the public, meetings with small groups as well as large, preparation of a video tape, and maintaining a project office in Logan where interested parties could come to obtain information on the project. Rudy Lukez suggested that information also be made available at the USU Library and the Logan Public Library so that it would be available during evening hours. Sheldon Barker said that the suggestion was a good one and it will be implemented. There was considerable discussion on the number and scheduling of meetings. Rudy Lukez did not feel that a lot of meetings was necessarily a good thing. He used as an example the recent meetings held by the Division of Water Resources on the proposal to build a dam on the Bear River. Meetings should be proceeded by 2 or 3 weeks of media coverage and should be well prepared. Rudy was also not certain if there would be any value to meeting with small groups because it would not give people with differing views an opportunity to hear the opinions of others. Sheldon Barker indicated that the different views would come out in the larger public meetings and that meeting with small groups would give the project team the opportunity to better prepare for the larger meetings. Rudy Lukez said that fall would be the best time to hold the scoping meetings because more -people would be able to attend. TASK 5 - COORDINATION Tom Haislip discussed the I.D. Team and its organization and the need to have each member involved. TASK 6 - ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSl-lENT Tom Haislip said that the I.D. Team would playa key role in the project by providing input and direction to the study team. Tom also asked for help from the environmental community. If there were any data or studies that are available and not in UDOT files, they may be of great help in the study. Rudy Lukez said that there was a study underway at USU investigating the impact that high speed traffic has on deer. Tom Haislip indicated that field studies were not planned because there is extensive information available. Tom also explained that it is intended that Technical Memos be prepared presenting in detail the findings of each phase of the study. After the I.D. Team has reviewed, discussed, and revised the Technical Memos, the information would be summarized and placed in the report. 4 �There was more discussion on the role of the I.D. Team. Dave Baumgartner again expressed his concern that I.D. Team members be in a position to do more than simply review conclusions and give their comments. Stan Nuffer said that study data, methodology, and conclusions would all be presented to the I.D. Team and discussed before incorporating anything into the report. Tom Haislip said that CH2M HILL's job would be to the "doers" who would gather information, review data and prepare Technical Memos for the I.D. Team. The I.D. Team would then review and discuss the memos and hopefully resolve any differences. Dave Baumgartner said that it may be necessary for superiors in each agency to resolve conflicts if they could not be handled on the I.D. Team level. He also indicated that the whole process would work much better if each alternative developed offered a real solution to the problems so that the alternative evaluation would be believable. Todd Weston pointed out that the Forest Service, UDOT, and FHWA must all agree to whatever solutions are presented in the report. If any of the three agencies disagree with the findings, the project will never be completed. In discussions at the end of the meeting, there was no agreement as to when the first public information meeting should be held, or what purpose it should serve. After further discussion, it was decided that the date of the first meeting should be set after the next I.D. Team meeting. It was recommended that a feature article on the project be prepared for the Logan paper. This should be published prior to the Logan public information meeting. The next meeting will be held on Monday June 23, at 7:00 p.m. at District 1 headquarters in Ogden. SLC73/39 5 � Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Local URL The URL of the local directory containing all assets of the website <a href="http://digital.lib.usu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/highway89/id/40">http://digital.lib.usu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/highway89/id/40</a> Purchasing Information Describe or link to information about purchasing copies of this item. To order photocopies, scans, or prints of this item for fair use purposes, please see Utah State University's Reproduction Order Form at: <a href="https://library.usu.edu/specol/using/copies.php">https://library.usu.edu/specol/using/copies.php</a> Digital Publisher List the name of the entity that digitized and published this item online. Digitized by: Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library Date Digital Record the date the item was digitized. 2013 Conversion Specs Scanned by Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library using Epson Expression 10000 scanner, at 800 dpi. Archival file is PDF (800 dpi), display file is JPEG2000. Checksum 46884717 File Size Size of the file in bytes. 4338797 Bytes Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Minutes from June 10, 1986 Interdisciplinary Team meeting Description An account of the resource A memo from Stan Nuffer detailing the minutes from the Interdisciplinary Team meeting from June 10, 1986. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Nuffer, Stanton S. Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Zollinger, Lynn Naegle, Jim Neal, John Larson, Gale Lukez, Rudy Weston, Todd Stilley, Al Baumgartner, Dave Silver, Duncan Richardson, Howard Barker, Sheldon Haislip, Tom D'Amico, John Grover, Frank Flint, Steve Forsgren, Clifford Subject The topic of the resource Roadside Improvement--Utah--Logan Canyon United States Highway 89 Logan Canyon Study Medium The material or physical carrier of the resource. Administrative records Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1986-06-19 Spatial Coverage Spatial characteristics of the resource. Ogden (Utah) Weber County (Utah) Utah United States Logan Canyon (Utah) Temporal Coverage Temporal characteristics of the resource. 1980-1989 20th century Language A language of the resource eng Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Sierra Club, Utah Chapter Archives, 1972-1986, COLL MSS 148 Series VIII Box 27 Folder 1 Is Referenced By A related resource that references, cites, or otherwise points to the described resource. View the inventory for this collection at: <a href="http://uda-db.orbiscascade.org/findaid/ark:/80444/xv03390">http://uda-db.orbiscascade.org/findaid/ark:/80444/xv03390</a> Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Reproduction for publication, exhibition, web display or commercial use is only permissible with the consent of the USU Libraries Photograph Curator, phone (435) 797-0890. Is Part Of A related resource in which the described resource is physically or logically included. Highway 89 Digital Collections Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource application/pdf Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context MSS148VIIIB27_Fd1_Page_8.pdf Highway 89; https://highway89.org/files/original/3a2f16f3b6d2bdb2f7da522edaa0ea2d.pdf 7456444ca1c08c0520ab5cb10e4d946d PDF Text Text '" LOGAN CANYON MINUTES OF ID TEAM MEETING October 6, 1986 Attendance: Stan Nuffer, CH2M HILL John D'Amico, CH2M HILL Cliff Forsgren,CH2M HILL Sherril Pitkin, CH2M HILL Fred LaBar, USFS Mark Shaw, USFS Clark Ostergard, USFS Gale Larson, Valley Engineering Neal Stoeger, FHWA . John Neil, UDOT Jim Naegle, UDOT Bruce Swenson, UDOT Jack Spence Steve Flint Item 1 - Review of Minutes Steve Flint asked that in all tech memo's and minutes, traffic volumes be stated as either winter, summer or annual. Item 2 - Review of Public Information Meeting f Stan Nuffer led the discussion on the public information meeting. Steve Flint pointed out that the distance from Garden City to Montelier, Idaho was 31 miles and the distance between Logan and " Garden City is 40 plus miles. Steve also indicated that he had spoken with people in the emergency room at the Logan Hospital and they said that there were medical services available in Montpelier and that the decision _to come to Logan for medical treatment was a personal one. Steve was concerned that there may have been ~ arl impression created at the meeting that there were no medical services in Montpelier. Noone at the meeting was certain just what services were available in Montpelier~ It was generally concluded that since Logan is a regional medical facility and has a greater range of services and specialists than the other communities in the general area, Logan would be a more desireable place to go for medical attention. 1 There was also a question about an increase in RV traffic in the Canyon. RV traffic is expected to increase at the same rate as the overall traffic volume. There has been nothing to indicate that the percentage of RV traffic will increase. 1 �( Jim Naegel mentioned that during the public meeting Rudy Lukez had said that he had traffic flow data dating back to the 1930's. Jim wondered why that information had not been brought to the ID Team and if Rudy wanted it considered as part of this study. No one in attendance was certain what Rudy wanted to do with the data. There was some discussion on the problem with the accident rate calculations obtained from UDOT. Jack Spence and Steve Flint expressed concern that the safety analysis may not be as good as it might be because of uncertain data. After some discussion it was decided that a letter would be written to the appropriate UDOT officials pointing out the calculation problems and the fear that there may be problems with the data itself. Cliff Forsgren will write the letter. Further discussion of safety led to the conclusion that those O.Ol-mile highway sections which appeared to have a greater number of accidents/year (at 80 percent confidence) than the average for the Canyon would be included in the alternative development phase. If during the alternative development phase it was determined that more information was needed on a specific site, the original accident reports for that site would be examined. Item 3 - Visual Considerations Presentation by Clark Ostergard Clark Ostergard made a presentation which explained the Forest Services' approach to classifying visual aspects and impacts of a proposed project. In addition to a written presentation, there were slides illustrating the important features of the visual classification system. Clark also had some references on designing and/or mitigating visual impacts on scenic highways. Clark has also taken the time to classify the roadway between Right Hand Fork and Ricks Springs. This information • will be extremely helpful as alternatives are developed and evaluated. Fred LaBar also discussed the Forest Plan, in particular Logan Canyon. Fred pointed out the provision for classifica~ tion of the highway in Logan Canyon as a "scenic highway". f:l John D' Amico asked if the "scenic highway" designation would ~ t-A~f'/ . increase traffic in the Canyon. Fred said that it might, · v"( t#.JJ especially if the Forest Service could increase its camping J ~~\~ facilities. \5'" Item 4 - Garden City Meeting Gale Larson said that there was a lot of interest in a meeting in Garden City. A meeting was scheduled for Monday, ' November 3, 1986 at 7:30 p.m. in Garden City. SLC-STN/03 2 � Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Local URL The URL of the local directory containing all assets of the website <a href="http://digital.lib.usu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/highway89/id/32">http://digital.lib.usu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/highway89/id/32</a> Purchasing Information Describe or link to information about purchasing copies of this item. To order photocopies, scans, or prints of this item for fair use purposes, please see Utah State University's Reproduction Order Form at: <a href="https://library.usu.edu/specol/using/copies.php">https://library.usu.edu/specol/using/copies.php</a> Digital Publisher List the name of the entity that digitized and published this item online. Digitized by: Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library Date Digital Record the date the item was digitized. 2013 Conversion Specs Scanned by Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library using Epson Expression 10000 scanner, at 800 dpi. Archival file is PDF (800 dpi), display file is JPEG2000. Checksum 2200061202 File Size Size of the file in bytes. 1440976 Bytes Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Minutes from October 6, 1986 Interdisciplinary Team meeting Description An account of the resource Minutes from October 6, 1986 Interdisciplinary Team meeting. Review of minutes, public information meeting, and visual considerations presentation by Clark Ostergard, Garden City meeting. Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource D'Amico, John Pitkin, Sherril LaBar, Fred Shaw, Mark Ostergard, Clark Larson, Gale Stoeger, Neal Neil, John Naegle, Jim Swenson, Bruce Spence, Jack Flint, Steve Forsgren, Clifford Nuffer, Stanton S. Subject The topic of the resource United States Highway 89 Logan Canyon (Utah) Medium The material or physical carrier of the resource. Administrative records Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1986-10-06 Spatial Coverage Spatial characteristics of the resource. Logan Canyon (Utah) Utah United States Cache County (Utah) Temporal Coverage Temporal characteristics of the resource. 1980-1989 20th century Language A language of the resource eng Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Sierra Club, Utah Chapter Archives, 1972-1986, COLL MSS 148 Series VIII Box 27 Folder 2 Is Referenced By A related resource that references, cites, or otherwise points to the described resource. View the inventory for this collection at: <a href="http://uda-db.orbiscascade.org/findaid/ark:/80444/xv03390">http://uda-db.orbiscascade.org/findaid/ark:/80444/xv03390</a> Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Reproduction for publication, exhibition, web display or commercial use is only permissible with the consent of the USU Libraries Photograph Curator, phone (435) 797-0890. Is Part Of A related resource in which the described resource is physically or logically included. Highway 89 Digital Collections Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource application/pdf Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context MSS148VIIIB27_Fd2_Page_10.pdf Highway 89; https://highway89.org/files/original/b6b02807fd9c8b69467ca7c15d49c978.pdf 5e1973b65d6dae49dbd6e6c9d8d76b24 PDF Text Text LOGAN CANYON ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY MINUTES OF ID TEAM MEETING November 17, 1986 ( Attendance: Cliff Forsgren, CH2M HILL Fred LaBar, USFS Clark Ostergarrd, USFS Gale Larson, Valley Engineering Duncan Silver, FHWA John Neil, UDOT Lynn Zollinger, UDOT Jim Naegle, UDOT Steve Flint, Audubon Assoc. Item 1 - Review of Minutes Two typographical errors were identified and Mark Shaw pointed out that he was in attendance at the last meeting, but was left off of the attendance list for the minutes. Item 2 - Alternate Route Technical Memo John Neil led the discussion of this item. There was some confusion about how the alternatives were defined. The text did not agree with the figure. It was determined that the most logical alternative was a combination of Alternate A and Alternate B. If an alternate route through Blacksmith Fork Canyon were to be considered, a route from Hyrum to Laketown through Hardware Ranch and Cottonwood Canyon would appear to have the most promise. It was agreed that the study of alternate routes should be postponed until the fu~l transportation potential of Logan Canyon (consistent with environmental constraints) was developed. John Neil made the motion to accept the memo, with the alterations made in the meeting, and its recommendations. Gale Larson seconded the motion and the voting was unanimous. John will modify the memo to reflect the teams comments. Item 3 - Public Involvement Summary Memorandum Cliff Forsgren led the discussion of the memo which had been prepared to summarize the public involvement program to date. Ducan Silver suggested that the verbal comments received during public meetings be summarized also. Stan Nuffer asked what sort of documentation the Forest Service would need in order to be satisfied that there had been adequate public participation. Fred LaBar said that the results of the scoping meetings would be required before the Forest Service 1 �( could do much to evaluate the progress of a public participation program. Clark Ostergarrd suggested that there be some provision in the memo to identify those comments directed towards preserving threatened and endangered species and maintaining the River. Duncan Silver pointed out that there were not a lot of differences in some of the column headings, for example the two columns dealing with traffic flow ("Flow is Problem" and "Improve Flow") and the two columns dealing with safety. He also suggested showing the total number of responses in each column. Item 4 - Public Involvement/Scoping Meetings Duncan Silver asked for a status report on the technical memorandums which have been prepared to date. The status report should indicate if they have been finaled and approved. This report will be prepared for the next meeting. John Neil asked if a notice of intent was required for a scoping meeting. If a notice of intent is required, it should be prepared as soon as possible if a meeting is to be held in early January. Stan will report to the team at the next meeting on what the legal requirements are for notification of a scoping meeting. Jim Naegle suggested holding the information sheet on "Issues and Concerns" until after the scoping meetings. Steve Flint pointed out some items that needed attention on the fact sheet that had already been mailed. Table 1 needed some clarification on how averages were determined during periods when the counter was not in service and Table 2 had a mislabled footnote. Steve was also concerned that some people would not understand that a level of service D or E was not for low or even average flow conditions, but represented some percentage of time when flows were above the projected average. More explanation of this concept will be included in the next fact sheet. Item 5 - Review of Existing Roadside Parking Stan Nuffer presented an inventory of existing roadside parking areas. The parking areas were identified by milepost and included both planned parking and "\vide spots" which appeared to have been used for parking. This list of parking areas was compiled in the summer and mayor may not represent winter parking patterns. Fred LaBar said that the Forest Service has an inventory of winter parking areas which he will provide to the team members. 2 �( Clark Ostergarrd said that it would be important to know whether the parking areas were near the recreational feature and which side of the road, relative to the River, they were on. There are also areas that the Forest Service considers problem areas and would just as soon not have parking nearby. When alternates are developed, the information on location of existing parking and need for planned parking will be used to define the alternates. ITEM 5 - Areas Meeting Criteria For Climbing Lanes Stan Nuffer presented the results of an analysis of the need for climbing lanes in the Canyon. AASHTO standards were used as the evaluation criteria. If AASHTO standards are met, there would be a climbing lane the entire length of the Canyon. There was some discussion on the improvement in LOS that might be expected with the placement of new climbing lanes. Lynn Zollinger asked if there was anything in the standards that addresseed the distance between the lanes. Jim Naegle indicated that he thought that was dictated by the conditions at the particular site. ( Duncan Silver pointed out that climbing lanes are used to improve the LOS and minimize speed reduction on upgrades. If a climbing lane were constructed, the LOS would be raised to C in that particular stretch of road. However, when the end of the lane was reached, the LOS would go back to D or E. It does not appear that the capacity problem can be solved for the entire Canyon and that minimizing the speed reduction where possible should be the priority. Stan will prepare a speed profile for the Canyon. It was concluded that the team members do not believe that LOS C can be attained through the entire Canyon. If it were possible to construct a climbing lane everywhere the climbing lane criteria were met, LOS C would be possible, however there are places where a third lane is unacceptable. ITEM 7 - Introduction of Layout of Roadway Widening and Alignment Improvement Component Stan Nuffer discussed the widening and straightening component that will eventually be used, along with other components, to define alternatives. Lynn Zollinger asked if the requirements for vertical sight distance had been checked. Stan indicated that it was underway. SLC-STN/03 3 � Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Local URL The URL of the local directory containing all assets of the website <a href="http://digital.lib.usu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/highway89/id/30">http://digital.lib.usu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/highway89/id/30</a> Purchasing Information Describe or link to information about purchasing copies of this item. To order photocopies, scans, or prints of this item for fair use purposes, please see Utah State University's Reproduction Order Form at: <a href="https://library.usu.edu/specol/using/copies.php">https://library.usu.edu/specol/using/copies.php</a> Digital Publisher List the name of the entity that digitized and published this item online. Digitized by: Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library Date Digital Record the date the item was digitized. 2013 Conversion Specs Scanned by Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library using Epson Expression 10000 scanner, at 800 dpi. Archival file is PDF (800 dpi), display file is JPEG2000. Checksum 2880054969 File Size Size of the file in bytes. 2120731 Bytes Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Minutes from November 17, 1986 Interdisciplinary Team meeting Description An account of the resource Minutes from November 17, 1986 Interdisciplinary Team meeting. Review of minutes, alternate route technical memo, public involvement summary memorandum, public involvement/scoping meeting, review of existing roadside parking, areas meeting critera for climbing lanes, and introduction of layout of roadway widening and alignment improvement component. Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource LaBar, Fred Ostergard, Clark Larson, Gale Silver, Duncan Neil, John Zollinger, Lynn Naegle, Jim Flint, Steve Forsgren, Clifford Subject The topic of the resource United States Highway 89 Roadside improvement--Utah--Logan Canyon Roads--Design and construction Logan Canyon Study Medium The material or physical carrier of the resource. Administrative records Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1986-11-17 Spatial Coverage Spatial characteristics of the resource. Logan Canyon (Utah) Utah United States Cache County (Utah) Temporal Coverage Temporal characteristics of the resource. 1980-1989 20th century Language A language of the resource eng Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Sierra Club, Utah Chapter Archives, 1972-1986, COLL MSS 148 Series VIII Box 27 Folder 2 Is Referenced By A related resource that references, cites, or otherwise points to the described resource. View the inventory for this collection at: <a href="http://uda-db.orbiscascade.org/findaid/ark:/80444/xv03390">http://uda-db.orbiscascade.org/findaid/ark:/80444/xv03390</a> Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Reproduction for publication, exhibition, web display or commercial use is only permissible with the consent of the USU Libraries Photograph Curator, phone (435) 797-0890. Is Part Of A related resource in which the described resource is physically or logically included. Highway 89 Digital Collections Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource application/pdf Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context MSS148VIIIB27_Fd2_Page_13.pdf Highway 89; https://highway89.org/files/original/b3ecb49ba327f0abb2eca7980b40ab59.pdf f68aac7adf92ffd6535e610eee796306 PDF Text Text LOGAN CANYON ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY MINUTES OF INTERDISCIPLINE TEAM MEETING June 23, 1986 Attending: Torn Haislip - CH2M HILL Sheldon Barker - CH2M HILL Gale Larson - Valley Engineering Lynn Zollinger - UDOT Bill Helm - Interested Party Jack Spence - Cache Group Sierra Club Rudy Lukez - Cache Group Sierra Club Steve Flint - Bridgerland Audobon Association John Neil - UDOT Cliff Forsgren - CH2M HILL Jim Naegle - UDOT Stan Nuffer - CH2M HILL Clark Ostergard - USFS Mark Shaw - USFS Fred LaBar - USFS Duncan Silver - FHWA Howard Richardson - UDOT ( ITEM 1 - Discussion of Minutes Stan Nuffer called the meeting to order and asked if anyone had comments on the minutes of the last meeting. There was a question raised about the review function of the ID Team which was described in the minutes. The role of the ID Team was an agenda item for this meeting and discussion of the function was postponed until later in the meeting. There was no further discussion of the minutes. ITEM 2 - Discussion of Role of Interdisciplinary Team A statement of the role of the interdisciplinary team was distributed and discussed. The major functions were: 1 ...I... • 2. ') ..J • Provide management input Provide technical input CH2M HILL will provide the primary input and the USFS would provide the technical input on environmental items. Other team members would add input as the need or opportunity arose. Review technical memoranda and draft Environmental Report - �4. The team members will review the technical memoranda and will also review the draft environmental report. Level of environmental action determinationRudy Lukez asked if this means that a decision will be made during the study on what the proposed project will be. He also wanted to know who would make the decision. It was explained that the final decision on what project, if any, will be proposed will be made by the three cooperating agencies, UDOT, USFS and FHWA. Prior to the decision on a project however, a decision must be made on the class of environmental action (EA or EIS) . Jack Spence was not sure who would make the recommendation on the class of environmental action to the cooperating agencies. It was determined that the ID Team would make the recommendation. Modifications to the statement of the role of the team were made. The revised statement is attached to these minutes. ITEM 3 - Level of Documentation Required by NEPA for Environmental Studies ( NEPA requirements for environmental studies were reviewed and discussed. A handout taken from the UDOT publication, Procedures for Project Development, described the basic categories. ITEM 4 - Public Involvement Program Outline Ap outline of the Public Involvement Program had previously been sent to ID Team members and was discussed at length. The principle topics of discussion were: 1. . The terms "projectlf and "study" were both used in the outline. To be consistent "study" should be used throughout when describing the ongoing activity. This will help to alleviate any fears of those who equate Ifproject" with actual construction. ?. Jack Spence wanted to know what the rational for the study was. Lynn Zollinger explained that whenever UDOT went into Logan Canyon, people asked the question If What is going to happen next?" After this study is complete UDOT can point to a plan which will address the transportation needs in the Canyon through the year 201rr. �3. The press release was discussed and Rudy Lukez suggested that the ID Team be described in it. John Neil stated that UDOT's community relations department would release the information as soon as it was prepared. 4. During the discussion of Milestone 2, it was recommended that the word "improvements be replaced with "action" so that both repair and improvements would be covered. Rudy Lukez asked where traffic forecasts would be used and how they would be developed. It was explained that the permanent traffic counter at Garden City, and spot traffic counts, would be used to establish the present tra f fic load in the Canyon. Population projections prepared by agencies having that responsibility would then be used to project traffic volume ahead to the year 2010. It was explained that there had already been spot traffic counts taken at two locations, on 2 different days this past winter and that more would be taken this summer. Jack Spence was not sure that the data gathered would be sufficient. He said that one of the problems with past studies was the lack of reliable traffic data from which to project future traffic flow. Jack asked to see the methodology and data when it was available. Rudy Lukez asked if sampling was an accepted means of gathering current traffic flow data. Duncan Silver answered that it was, provided the sample size was large enough and the sampling techniques were acceptable. He also suggested that the ID Team evaluate the sampling techniques. Stan Nuffer said that information on the methodology and sampling techniques would be ready for the next ID Team meeting. Rudy Lukez asked if they could be prepared far enough in advance to allow the team members a chance to review the information before the next meeting. Duncan Silver restated his belief that the key issue on this · item was the methodology used to gather the present traffic flow data. Duncan also wanted to know why a 2-day 10-hour sample period was selected, a period of this type would be acceptable for traffic classification but probably not for counts. Stan Nuffer said that information on the methodology and sampling techniques would be available before the next meeting. ll 5. Jack Spence expressed concern about having too many meetings during the summer vlhen many of the USU students and facility are out of town. Sheldon Barker indicated that the schedule of meetings was �flexible and that something could probably be worked out. 6. During the discussion of Milestone 3, Jack Spence asked if the Public Involvement Program was designed to meet the requirements for an EIS in case there was a need for one. Tom Haislip explained that the program was designed with an EIS in mind. Sheldon Barker also asked the team members for names of persons or organizations who should be added to the mailing list. Anyone who has a suggestion should either give Sheldon the information after the meeting or mail it to him. ITEM 5 - Schedule of Interdisciplinary Team Meetings Stan Nuffer presented a schedule of team meetings through September. It was suggested that 3:00 p.m. would be a better time for some team members than 10:00 a.m. It was agreed that all meetings scheduled for 10:00 a.m. would be held at 3:00 p.m. instead. Before the meeting adjourned, Duncan Silver again stated that he felt the traffic data must be good enough to satisfy the group before the study proceeded too much farther. Jim Naegle stated that standard accepted methods were used during the gathering of data. The next scheduled meeting is 3:00 p.m., July 14, 1986, in the District office in Ogden. SLC77/59 � Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Local URL The URL of the local directory containing all assets of the website <a href="http://digital.lib.usu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/highway89/id/21">http://digital.lib.usu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/highway89/id/21</a> Purchasing Information Describe or link to information about purchasing copies of this item. To order photocopies, scans, or prints of this item for fair use purposes, please see Utah State University's Reproduction Order Form at: <a href="https://library.usu.edu/specol/using/copies.php">https://library.usu.edu/specol/using/copies.php</a> Digital Publisher List the name of the entity that digitized and published this item online. Digitized by: Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library Date Digital Record the date the item was digitized. 2013 Conversion Specs Scanned by Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library using Epson Expression 10000 scanner, at 800 dpi. Archival file is PDF (800 dpi), display file is JPEG2000. Checksum 4097134252 File Size Size of the file in bytes. 2578459 Bytes Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Minutes of June 23, 1986 Interdisciplinary Team meeting Description An account of the resource Minutes of June 23, 1986 Interdisciplinary Team meeting. Review of minutes, discussion of role of Interdisciplinary Team, level of documentation required, public involvement program outline, and the schedule. Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Haislip, Tom Barker, Sheldon Larson, Gale Zollinger, Lynn Helm, Bill Spence, Jack Lukez, Rudy Flint, Steve Neil, John Naegle, Jim Nuffer, Stan Ostergard, Clark Shaw, Mark LaBar, Fred Sliver, Duncan Richardson, Howard Forsgren, Clifford Subject The topic of the resource United States Highway 89 Roadside Improvement--Utah--Logan Canyon Medium The material or physical carrier of the resource. Administrative records Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1986-06-23 Spatial Coverage Spatial characteristics of the resource. Utah United States Logan Canyon (Utah) Cache County (Utah) Temporal Coverage Temporal characteristics of the resource. 1980-1989 20th century Language A language of the resource eng Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Sierra Club, Utah Chapter Archives, 1972-1986, COLL MSS148 Series VIII Box 27 Folder 2 Is Referenced By A related resource that references, cites, or otherwise points to the described resource. View the inventory for this collection at: <a href="http://uda-db.orbiscascade.org/findaid/ark:/80444/xv03390">http://uda-db.orbiscascade.org/findaid/ark:/80444/xv03390</a> Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Reproduction for publication, exhibition, web display or commercial use is only permissible with the consent of the USU Libraries Photograph Curator, phone (435) 797-0890. Is Part Of A related resource in which the described resource is physically or logically included. Highway 89 Digital Collections Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource application/pdf Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context MSS148VIIIB27_Fd2_Page_5.pdf Highway 89; https://highway89.org/files/original/851e91620b9c3bbf3d51ce77f805d748.pdf 40d1e76dd05e8c4b86582fa13941bcf2 PDF Text Text LOGAN CANYON ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY MINUTES OF ID TEAM MEETING December 8, 1986 ( Attendance: Cliff Forsgren, CH2M HILL Stan Nuffer, CH2M HILL Fred LaBar, USFS Clark Ostergaard, USFS Mark Shaw, USFS Gale Larson, Valley Engineering Duncan Silver, FHWA John Neil, UDOT Lynn Zollinger, UDOT Jim Naegle, UDOT Rudy Lukez, Sierra Club Jack Spence, Sierra Club Item I - Review of Minutes Stan Nuffer conducted a revi~w of the minutes of the previous meeting. Items that were not included in the minutes and should have been were: o Item 5. The Forest Service is going to provide the team members with a copy of the _ parking and recreation master plan . . o Item 6. The first time "LOS" is used, it should ' be proceeded by Level of __ Service. o Item 6. The last sentence was changed to more accurately reflect the fact that much of the Canyon will not accommodate a climbing lane. ( In addition to the corrections, Duncan Silver clarified his request .for a status report on the Technical Memorandums. What he had in mind was a "scorecard" which simply listed the subject and status (draft, received, approved, final). Jack Spence also asked for some clarification from the Forest Service on their desire to reduce parking in some areas of the Canyon. Fred LaBar indicated that there was a need to maintain adequate parking for fishing and other recreational purposes, but some types of parking, (hunters for example) need to be better controlled. Item 2 - Discussion of Issues and Concerns Copies of written comments received to date were distributed as were copies of the transcripts of the two public meetings. Cliff Forsgren explained the way the comments are being tabulated. There is some difficulty in tabulating the verbal 1 �( comments received at the public meetings because not all speakers identified themselves. It is possible that some persons, who were not identified, spoke up at more than one time and those views were tabulated on each occasion. Another difficulty is the best way to handle questions from people who did not express a view. The 1.0. Team members were asked to review the transcripts and tabulations and make any suggestions they might have. Item 3 - Discussion of Schedule for Completion of the Scoping Process Stan Nuffer explained that the scoping requirements are different for the Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) than for an Environmental Assessment (EA). There is a lengthy notification process for an EIS. Stan suggested that, if the I.D. Team felt that an EIS would ultimately be required, the EIS scoping process should be started. Duncan Silver did not feel that there was enough environmental information available to make any kind of preliminary determination on the need for an EIS. Clark Ostergaard indicated that he would like to know if there was critical spawning habitat in the River that might be impacted by some alternatives. Jack Spence pointed out that in maintaining the Forest Service visual standards, the· improvements that were possible may not be significant enough to require an EIS. After considerable discussion it was decided that the environmental inventories describing the affected environment need to be reviewed in a manner similar to the previous, techn~cal ,~~morandums. ~fter there memorandums have been reviewed, a determination of the appropriate scoping process could be made. During the discussion, Duncan Silver also indicated that tFHWA would probably review the final document (EA of EIS) as if it were as EIS. Jim Naegle said that information would be helpful to UDOT because it appeared that there would be 'a . lengthy review period regardless of the type of final report. Item 4 - Update of Final Visual Classification Clark Ostergaard presented some updated information on visual classifications in the Canyon. He brought his latest mapping effort that showed the visual classifications between Right Fork and Ricks Springs. Duncan Silver asked if the visual retention criteria allowed for "upgrades" in one area to offset "downgrades" in another. For example, if as a result of the roadway improvements, a portion of road that had a classification of 2 was raised to 3, would it be possible at another location to allow a 5 before construction to be a 4 after. Clark was not sure how to address that and would have an answer for the next meeting. 2 �( Item 5 - Layouts for Component Widening and Alignment Improv.ement from Ricks Springs to Garden City Stan Nuffer reviewed the plan and profile of the widening and alignment improvement component from Ricks Springs to Garden City. Much of this component has a climbing lane. Lynn Zollinger said that if a climbing lane were to be constructed, intersections would also require special attention. NOTE: Prior to the beginning of the meeting John Ellsworth from Utah State University made a presentation of a computer simulation technique for depicting topographic modifications. SLC-STN/03 3 � Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. 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Checksum 1780284587 File Size Size of the file in bytes. 1806274 Bytes Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Minutes from December 8, 1986 Interdisciplinary Team meeting Description An account of the resource Minutes from December 8, 1986 Interdisciplinary Team meeting. Review of minutes, discussion of issues and concerns, discussion of schedule for completion of the scoping process, update of final visual classification, and layouts for component widening and alignment improvement from Ricks Springs to Garden City. Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource LaBar, Fred Ostergard, Clark Shaw, Mark Larson, Gale Silver, Duncan Neil, John Zollinger, Lynn Naegle, Jim Lukez, Rudy Spence, Jack Ellsworth, John Forsgren, Clifford Nuffer, Stanton S. Subject The topic of the resource United States Highway 89 Roadside Improvement--Utah--Logan Canyon Traffic engineering Medium The material or physical carrier of the resource. Administrative records Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1986-12-08 Spatial Coverage Spatial characteristics of the resource. Logan Canyon (Utah) Utah United States Cache County (Utah) Temporal Coverage Temporal characteristics of the resource. 1980-1989 20th century Language A language of the resource eng Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Sierra Club, Utah Chapter Archives, 1972-1986, COLL MSS 148 Series VIII Box 27 Folder 2 Is Referenced By A related resource that references, cites, or otherwise points to the described resource. View the inventory for this collection at: <a href="http://uda-db.orbiscascade.org/findaid/ark:/80444/xv03390">http://uda-db.orbiscascade.org/findaid/ark:/80444/xv03390</a> Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Reproduction for publication, exhibition, web display or commercial use is only permissible with the consent of the USU Libraries Photograph Curator, phone (435) 797-0890. Is Part Of A related resource in which the described resource is physically or logically included. Highway 89 Digital Collections Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource application/pdf Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context MSS148VIIIB27_Fd2_Page_14.pdf Highway 89; https://highway89.org/files/original/1ae6806e3de179f10bbc0234fa823820.pdf 6ac516f039a32c7a923789718bf06c86 PDF Text Text LOGAN CANYON MINUTES OF ID TEAM MEETING August 25, 1986 Attendance: Stan Nuffer, CH2M HILL Duncan Silver, FHWA Fred LaBar, USFS Steve Flint, Audobon Society Jack Spence, Sierra Club Cliff Forsgren, CH2M HILL Gale Larson, Valley Engineering John Neil, UDOT Jim Naegle, UDOT Lynn Zollinger, UDOT Rudy Lukez, Cache Group Sierra Club Howard Richardson, UDOT Todd Weston, UDOT Item 1 - Review of Minutes Duncan Silver suggested that there be no more discussion on roadway maintenance and that the tech memo be written so that the team could go on to other items. Lynn Zollinger indicated that the material placed along the river was not bladed into the river but rather bladed to the side to establish a roadway shoulder. There was no other discussion on the minutes. Item 2 - Draft Traffic Forecast Technical Memorandum Steve Flint presented written comments on the draft memorandum and a copy was presented to each team member present. Jack Spence indicated that he had tried several methods to , try and establish a trend using annual and non-summer ADT's and found that the scatter of the points was too great to draw any conclusions. From a statistical standpoint a correlation was not found. However, given the data available, he could not recommend an approach which would be any better than those described in the memo. Duncan Silver felt that the methodology used was adequate and that the written comments received should be incorporated into the memo and this portion of the study concluded. There was agreement on use of the 2 percent compounded growth for making traffic projections. ( There was some discussion on how and when the design hour volume would be e?tablished. Cliff Forsgren explained that it was planned to select the design hour volume as part of the capacity evaluation. The 100 highest hour volumes for 1 �several of the past years are being plotted and will be available _ by the next meeting. -- The design hour volume will be determined at that time. Item 3 - Review of Manual Traffic Counts Stan Nuffer reviewed the manual traffic count data. The manual counts have been completed and the data will now be reduced. Duncan Silver asked how a traffic profile would be developed through the Canyon. Stan explained that the data from the permanent station and the manual counts would be correlated to establish a profile and directional split through the Canyon. Stan pointed out that the hourly directional split appears to follow an urban distribution. Item 4 - Review of Existing Roadway Features Stan Nuffer distributed illustrations of typical road crosssections at mile posts through the Canyon and explained that this information would be used to establish capacity and level of service. The discussion focused primarily on the design speed and how and when it would be established. Stan Nuffer indicated that it would be desirable to keep the speed as uniform as possible through the Canyon, but that may not be possible. It was explained that the design speed is usually a function of lane width and horizontal and vertical alignment. Lynn Zollinger asked when the alternate routes from the Summit to Garden C~ty would be considered.- Stan Nuffer explained that it would occur during the alternative development task which was yet to come. The 1 inch = 500 feet mapping will not be available until mid September. General Discussion Jack Spence expressed some concern ab6ut whether or not there would be enough information available to hold the first public involvement meeting in early September. It was decided that since the first meeting had not been officially scheduled to wait until the information was available to schedule the public involvement meeting. The next ID Team meeting will held in Brigham City. SLC76/07 2 � Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Local URL The URL of the local directory containing all assets of the website <a href="http://digital.lib.usu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/highway89/id/17">http://digital.lib.usu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/highway89/id/17</a> Purchasing Information Describe or link to information about purchasing copies of this item. 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Title A name given to the resource Minutes from August 25, 1986 Interdisciplinary Team meeting Description An account of the resource Minutes from August 25, 1986 Interdisciplinary Team meeting. Review of minutes, draft traffic forecast technical memorandum, manual traffic counts, existing roadway features, and general discussion. Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Silver, Duncan LaBar, Fred Flint, Steve Spence, Jack Larson, Gale Neil, John Naegle, Jim Zollinger, Lynn Lukez, Rudy Richardson, Howard Weston, Todd Forsgren, Clifford Nuffer, Stanton S. Subject The topic of the resource United States Highway 89 Roadside Improvement--Utah--Logan Canyon Traffic engineering Medium The material or physical carrier of the resource. Administrative records Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1986-08-25 Spatial Coverage Spatial characteristics of the resource. Utah United States Logan Canyon (Utah) Cache County (Utah) Temporal Coverage Temporal characteristics of the resource. 1980-1989 20th century Language A language of the resource eng Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Sierra Club, Utah Chapter Archives, 1972-1986, COLL MSS 148 Series VIII Box 27 Folder 2 Is Referenced By A related resource that references, cites, or otherwise points to the described resource. View the inventory for this collection at: <a href="http://uda-db.orbiscascade.org/findaid/ark:/80444/xv03390">http://uda-db.orbiscascade.org/findaid/ark:/80444/xv03390</a> Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Reproduction for publication, exhibition, web display or commercial use is only permissible with the consent of the USU Libraries Photograph Curator, phone (435) 797-0890. Is Part Of A related resource in which the described resource is physically or logically included. Highway 89 Digital Collections Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource application/pdf Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context MSS148VIIIB27_Fd2_Page_7.pdf Highway 89; https://highway89.org/files/original/8f968d60cdc9d53a78511f0453e5060c.pdf 17519abc26a00f45a2595f956e6385f6 PDF Text Text LOGAN CANYON ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY . MINUTES OF ID TEAM MEETING January 27, 1987 ( Attendance: Sheldon Barker, CH2M HILL Stan Nuffer, CH2M HILL Torn Haislip, CH2M HILL Fred LaBar, USFS Mark Shaw, USFS Clark Ostergaard, USFS Gale Larson, Valley Engineering Duncan Silver, FHWA Jim Naegle, UDOT Lynn Zollinger, UDOT Howard Richardson, UDOT Steve Flint, Audobon Assoc. Bill Helm, Item 1 - Review of Minutes There were no cornnlents on the minutes of the previous meeting. ( Steve Flint expressed concern over the traffic forecast and felt that an exponential forecast is not statistically supportable from the traffic data for the Logan Canyon stations shown in the technical memorandum. He was also concerned that level of service projections based on that growth rate would be misleading. He suggested a time series analysis and using data as far back as available. Stan Nuffer reviewed the methods and assumptions used when the technical memorandum was presented and accepted by the I.D. Team in August 1986. In the original analysis, we had looked at a number of areas to forecast growth including traffic data for a number of highways including stations on U.S. 89 outside of the Canyon. Also data from regional economic and local land use forecasting was used, which forecast a growth rate in the 2 percent range. All of these sources of data were used to arrive at the proposed rate. Concern has been expressed that the 2 percent rate was too low when compared against projections made by UDOT in the past. After considerable discussion, a motion was passed with one negative vote to retain at 2 percent (1.95) experimental growth rate. Stan agreed to look at what effect differences in the projected ADT would have in capacity determinations. Steve also suggested that Section 2 be broken into two subsections, for capacity analysis which will be considered. The assumption for one percent buses in the traffic needs to be supported by data or dropped. Lynn Zollinger suggested we check with Idaho and Wyoming on what projections they are using. 1 �( Duncan Silver asked what process will be used in determining visual impacts, and if there are any rules or guidelines that can be followed. Clark Qstergaard ·said that the · existing analysis shows what is there and what should be preserv~d. Each area will have to be handled on a case-by-case basis for each of the alternatives. Mitigation measures may be possible in some areas. Due to the length of discussion on the above items, agenda items 2 and 3 were passed over. Items 2 and 3 Time was not available to review in the meeting. bers encouraged to read the material. Team mem- Item 4 - Continued Discussion of Alternatives Stan distributed a revised copy of the component and alternative development matrix showing the elimination of some alternates and modification of components in other. After considerable discussion the following alternates were agreed upon: Middle Canyon ( Alt Alt Alt Alt 1 2 3 4 No build Spot improvements Widen along existing alignment Widen and. improve align to 40 mph with advising 35 mph design where necessary Upper Canyon Alt 1 Alt 2 Alt 4 No build Spot improvements Widen and improve existing alignment to 60 mph with lower advisory design speed where necessary Rich County Alt 1 Alt 2 Alt 4 Alt 6 No build Spot improvements Widen and improve existing alignment to 40 mph with lower advisory design speed where necessary New north alignment with 40 mph basic but look at 50 mph if possible Spot improvements should be defined by location and improvement. ( 2 �( Fred LaBar was skeptical that a uniform 40 mph design in the middle Canyon would ever be acceptable to the Forest Service. SLC-STN/03i ( 3 � Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Local URL The URL of the local directory containing all assets of the website <a href="http://digital.lib.usu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/highway89/id/9">http://digital.lib.usu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/highway89/id/9</a> Purchasing Information Describe or link to information about purchasing copies of this item. To order photocopies, scans, or prints of this item for fair use purposes, please see Utah State University's Reproduction Order Form at: <a href="https://library.usu.edu/specol/using/copies.php">https://library.usu.edu/specol/using/copies.php</a> Digital Publisher List the name of the entity that digitized and published this item online. Digitized by: Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library Date Digital Record the date the item was digitized. 2013 Conversion Specs Scanned by Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library using Epson Expression 10000 scanner, at 800 dpi. Archival file is PDF (800 dpi), display file is JPEG2000. Checksum 2858595943 File Size Size of the file in bytes. 1585773 Bytes Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Minutes from January 27, 1987 Interdisciplinary Team meeting Description An account of the resource Minutes from January 27, 1987 Interdisciplinary Team meeting. Review of minutes and continued discussion on alternatives. Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Barker, Sheldon Haislip, Tom LaBar, Fred Shaw, Mark Ostergard, Clark Larson, Gale Silver, Duncan Naegle, Jim Zollinger, Lynn Richardson, Howard Flint, Steve Helm, Bill Nuffer, Stanton S. Subject The topic of the resource United States Highway 89 Roadside Improvement--Utah--Logan Canyon Logan Canyon (Utah) Medium The material or physical carrier of the resource. Administrative records Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1987-01-27 Spatial Coverage Spatial characteristics of the resource. Logan Canyon (Utah) Utah United States Cache County (Utah) Temporal Coverage Temporal characteristics of the resource. 1980-1989 20th century Language A language of the resource eng Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Sierra Club, Utah Chapter Archives, 1972-1986, COLL MSS 148 Series VIII Box 27 Folder 2 Is Referenced By A related resource that references, cites, or otherwise points to the described resource. View the inventory for this collection at: <a href="http://uda-db.orbiscascade.org/findaid/ark:/80444/xv03390">http://uda-db.orbiscascade.org/findaid/ark:/80444/xv03390</a> Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Reproduction for publication, exhibition, web display or commercial use is only permissible with the consent of the USU Libraries Photograph Curator, phone (435) 797-0890. Is Part Of A related resource in which the described resource is physically or logically included. Highway 89 Digital Collections Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource application/pdf Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context MSS148VIIIB27_Fd2_Page_15.pdf Highway 89; https://highway89.org/files/original/8e54cde9a729b8bcbee7bbf269c14697.pdf 78fd32fdb85006ad28f271c80d121feb PDF Text Text LOGAN CANYON MINUTES OF ID TEAM MEETING November 3, 1986 ( Attendance " : Stan Nuffer, CH2M HILL Cliff Forsgren,CH2M HILL Fred LaBar, USFS Clark Ostergarrd, USFS Dave Baumgartner, USFS Gale Larson, Valley Engineering Duncan Silver, FHWA John Neil, UDOT Lynn Zollinger, UDOT Jim Naegle, UDOT Steve Flint, Audubon Assoc. Jack Spence, Sierra Club Rudy Lukez, Sierra Club Wendell Anderson - Visitor Willis Tingey - Visitor Item 1 - Review of Minutes ( Stan Nuffer lead the discussion on the minutes of the last team meeting. The only item brought up related to the Safety Tech memo. Jack Spence suggested that it would be better to state that some locations along the highway had higher than average accident rates rather than higher than expected accident rates, since there was really no way of determining expected accident rates. Jack also had a suggestion on Table 10. If the level of confidence was going to be included as part of the table, there should be some explanation of what it meant. Steve Flint asked that the number of fatalities be included on Table 8, along with the number of fatal accidents. There was no other discussion on the minutes of the previous meeting. Item 2 - Discussion of Alternate Routes (to Logan Canyon) John Neil reported on his study of alternate routes from Logan to Bear Lake. He had invited Mr. Wendell Anderson and Mr. Willis Tingey to report on a study that they had made on the possibility of a route through Blacksmith Fork Canyon. The study was conducted at the request of former Governor Clyde. It was pointed out that a route from Logan to Sage Junction through Blacksmith Fork Canyon was 8 to 10 miles shorter and the maximum elevation was 500 feet lower than the existing route through Logan Canyon. Both Mr. Anderson and Mr. Tingey felt that Logan Canyon would not be able to handle all of the traffic that it would be asked to handle and that an alternate route should be considered. 1 �John Neil reported that UDOT planners had told him that the simplest way to develop an alternate route would be to develop some additional recreational areas that needed the access. The construction cost of an alternate route was estimated at $1.5 to $2.0 million per mile. Lynn Zollinger agreed that Logan Canyon will not be able to carryall of the traffic that will ultimately travel between Bear Lake and the Wasatch Front. However it has not been determined how much more, if any, traffic Logan Canyon can handle before the impacts become unacceptable. Lynn suggested that there not be any more consideration of alternate routes, at least until it has been determined that there will be need for more capacity than Logan Canyon can carry. Jack Spence agreed with Lynn, there did not seem to be the need for additional capacity at the present and that study of alternate routes was not warranted. If it was determined that there was major action of the same scale required in Logan Canyon then the examination of alternate routes would be warranted. Other discussion about the Blacksmith Fork alternate involved possible environmental problems with the River, Hardware Ranch and the lack of room in Left Hand Fork. It was decided that this discussion would be summarized for the record in a memo and action to be taken at the next meeting. ( Item 3 - Discussion of Goals and Objectives Tech Memo Stan Nuffer lead the discussion of the overall goals and objectives that had been presented in a draft technical memorandum at the last ID team meeting. The first topic · was the minimum speed that the "baseline" alternative would be designed for. There was some question about a 35 mph mini, mum in the lower part of the canyon. Fred LaBar said that a 40 mph minimum speed had been considered before in that section and had been found to be acceptable. Jim Naegle asked if the modified standard section had been used in the previous study. Some thought that it had but none were certain. Duncan Silver suggested that copies of the 1979 proposal and analysis be distributed to members of the ID team so that the team had an opportunity to review the past work and decide whether the past study was still valid. This approach would be better than just rubber stamping a study that most on the team were not familiar with. It was also suggested that the AASHTO recommended minimums be included in the table on page 3 of the memo. Rudy Lukes asked where there would be minimum speeds greater than 40 mgh. Stan Nuffer said that in some areas the posted speed is currently 55 mph and that he thought we could maintain that speed in those areas. 2 �( There was also some discussion on what "minimum" meant. Some expressed concern that the minimum set now would be absolute regardless of other consequences. Stan explained that in order to establish roadway features (curves, etc.) minimum speeds needed to be set. If the impacts of designing a roadway for one "minimum" are unacceptable then a new "minimum" speed would be required. Minimum speeds are not meant to be fixed at the beginning of the study and then not redefined if needed. The technical memo illustrated standard sections and modified standard sections for 40 mph. It was suggested that sections for 35 and 55 mph also be included. Steve Flint expressed concern that delineators would make parking areas unuseable. Duncan Silver said that the need for parking should be evaluated and planned for where needed. Rudy Lukes wondered if the dugway was really a good place to consider a climbing lane. Duncan Silver said that there should be an inventory of the needs for climbing lanes before looking at possible locations. To conduct the inventory the team should: 1. Establish criteria for the selection of possible locations. 2. Identify those sections which may meet the criteria. 3. Identify the possible environmental constraints at those sites. Slow vehicle turnouts were also discussed. Lynn Zollinger indicated that the turnouts need to be placed where those using the turnouts will have a good view of the roadway in order to safely get out of and back into the traffic. The final item on the goals and objectives memo was a suggestion to add a section on the need for recreational parking. Fred LaBar said that the Forest Service could help identify where recreational parking was needed. Item 4 - Alternate Alignments from the Summit to Garden City Stan Nuffer said that the Archeologist was preparing an alternate alignments survey. 3 �- Item 5 - Preview of Garden City Public Meeting Presentation ( Cliff Forsgren previewed the slide presentation which was to be used to introduce the project to those who attended the meeting in Garden City. SLC-STN/03 4 � Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Local URL The URL of the local directory containing all assets of the website <a href="http://digital.lib.usu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/highway89/id/7">http://digital.lib.usu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/highway89/id/7</a> Purchasing Information Describe or link to information about purchasing copies of this item. To order photocopies, scans, or prints of this item for fair use purposes, please see Utah State University's Reproduction Order Form at: <a href="https://library.usu.edu/specol/using/copies.php">https://library.usu.edu/specol/using/copies.php</a> Digital Publisher List the name of the entity that digitized and published this item online. Digitized by: Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library Date Digital Record the date the item was digitized. 2013 Conversion Specs Scanned by Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library using Epson Expression 10000 scanner, at 800 dpi. Archival file is PDF (800 dpi), display file is JPEG2000. Checksum 773442565 File Size Size of the file in bytes. 2464336 Bytes Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Minutes from November 3, 1986 Interdisciplinary Team meeting Description An account of the resource Minutes from November 3, 1986 Interdisciplinary Team meeting. Review of minutes, discussion of alternate routes to Logan Canyon, discussion of goals and objectives tech memo, alternate alignments from the summit to Garden City, and a preview of Garden City public meeting presentation. Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource LaBar, Fred Ostergard, Clark Baumgartner, Dave Larson, Gale Silver, Duncan Neil, John Zollinger, Lynn Naegle, Jim Flint, Steve Spence, Jack Lukez, Rudy Anderson, Wendell Tingey, Willis Forsgren, Clifford Nuffer, Stanton S. Subject The topic of the resource United States Highway 89 Roads--Design and construction Logan Canyon Study Medium The material or physical carrier of the resource. Administrative records Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1986-11-03 Spatial Coverage Spatial characteristics of the resource. Logan Canyon (Utah) Utah United States Cache County (Utah) Temporal Coverage Temporal characteristics of the resource. 1980-1989 20th century Language A language of the resource eng Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Sierra Club, Utah Chapter Archives, 1972-1986, COLL MSS 148 Series VIII Box 27 Folder 2 Is Referenced By A related resource that references, cites, or otherwise points to the described resource. View the inventory for this collection at: <a href="http://uda-db.orbiscascade.org/findaid/ark:/80444/xv03390">http://uda-db.orbiscascade.org/findaid/ark:/80444/xv03390</a> Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Reproduction for publication, exhibition, web display or commercial use is only permissible with the consent of the USU Libraries Photograph Curator, phone (435) 797-0890. 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Highway 89 Digital Collections Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource application/pdf Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context MSS148VIIIB27_Fd2_Page_12.pdf Highway 89; https://highway89.org/files/original/88b5488d478636205e8ce14e01579f45.pdf 19011acafaa7164f953244e00c6aff32 PDF Text Text L0~AN CANYON MINUTES OF ID TEAM MEETING September 22, 1986 ( Attendance: Stan Nuffer, CH2M HILL John D'Amico, CH~M HILL Cliff Forsgren,CH2M HILL Duncan Silver, FHWA Fred LaBar, USFS Mark Shaw, USFS Clark Ostergard, USFS Gale Larson, Valley Engineering John Neil, UDOT Jim Naegle, UDOT Howard Richardson, UDOT Rudy Lukez, Sierra Club Item 1 - Review of Minutes Cliff Forsgren indicated that there had been some inconsistencies discovered in the accident rate calculations and that it would be better to hold off on presenting any information to the public until the questions were answered. ( Item 2 - Traffic Characteristics Stan Nuffer lead the discussion of the Traffic Characteristics Technical Memorandum. During the discussion Rudy Lukez questioned the statement about the winter traffic count representing a "background" traffic flow. After some discussion, Duncan Silver wondered if the issues of background flow was really relevant to the study. Duncan asked that it be made clearer in the memorandum which flows were winter, which were summer and which were annual. It was concluded in the memorandum that the Design Hourly Volume (DHV) would be 14 percent of the average daily summer traffic. It was also noted that the 14 percent figure tracks very closely with other recreational roads. Item 3 - Traffic Capacity Cliff Forsgren presented the results of the traffic capacity analysis. It was pointed out that the primary purpose of the analysis was to try to describe the conditions that exist in the Canyon under various traffic volumes. To do this, a Level of Service approach was used. Levels of service from A to E were examined. It was determined that all sections of the road offer a level of service D at the present time and that by the year 2010 level E would be 1 �experienced in most of the Canyon. Rudy Lukez asked if level of service D was really undesireable. Cliff indicated that a desired level of service would need to be established as a goal and that this had not been done. Before alternatives can be developed this must be accomplished. Item 4 - Miscellaneous Duncan Silver felt that there needed to be a list developed of general environmental factors. This should be completed before the development of alternatives begins. Stan Nuffer indicated that the environmental team is gathering information and there should be some basic understanding before serious alternative development began. SLC-STN/03 ( 2 � Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Local URL The URL of the local directory containing all assets of the website <a href="http://digital.lib.usu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/highway89/id/5">http://digital.lib.usu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/highway89/id/5</a> Purchasing Information Describe or link to information about purchasing copies of this item. To order photocopies, scans, or prints of this item for fair use purposes, please see Utah State University's Reproduction Order Form at: <a href="https://library.usu.edu/specol/using/copies.php">https://library.usu.edu/specol/using/copies.php</a> Digital Publisher List the name of the entity that digitized and published this item online. Digitized by: Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library Date Digital Record the date the item was digitized. 2013 Conversion Specs Scanned by Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library using Epson Expression 10000 scanner, at 800 dpi. Archival file is PDF (800 dpi), display file is JPEG2000. Checksum 3868173708 File Size Size of the file in bytes. 1034056 Bytes Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Minutes from September 22, 1986 Interdisciplinary Team meeting Description An account of the resource Minutes from September 22, 1986 Interdisciplinary Team meeting. Review of minutes, traffic characteristics, traffic capacity, and general environmental factors. Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource D'Amico, John Silver, Duncan LaBar, Fred Shaw, Mark Ostergard, Clark Larson, Gale Neil, John Naegle, Jim Richardson, Howard Lukez, Rudy Nuffer, Stanton S. Forsgren, Clifford Subject The topic of the resource Signs and signboards Roadside Improvement--Utah--Logan Canyon Traffic engineering Medium The material or physical carrier of the resource. Administrative records Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1986-09-22 Spatial Coverage Spatial characteristics of the resource. Utah United States Logan Canyon (Utah) Cache County (Utah) Temporal Coverage Temporal characteristics of the resource. 1980-1989 20th century Language A language of the resource eng Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Sierra Club, Utah Chapter Archives, 1972-1986, COLL MSS 148 Series VIII Box 27 Folder 2 Is Referenced By A related resource that references, cites, or otherwise points to the described resource. View the inventory for this collection at: <a href="http://uda-db.orbiscascade.org/findaid/ark:/80444/xv03390">http://uda-db.orbiscascade.org/findaid/ark:/80444/xv03390</a> Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Reproduction for publication, exhibition, web display or commercial use is only permissible with the consent of the USU Libraries Photograph Curator, phone (435) 797-0890. Is Part Of A related resource in which the described resource is physically or logically included. Highway 89 Digital Collections Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource application/pdf Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context MSS148VIIIB27_Fd2_Page_9.pdf Highway 89; https://highway89.org/files/original/390efa1c5562c962da6d806f7c42bb38.pdf c806fc53a5620551340cf52392a9c7e7 PDF Text Text - LOGAN CANYON MINUTES OF ID TEAM MEETING September 8, 1986 ( Attendance: Stan Nuffer, CH2M HILL Cliff Forsgren,CH2M HILL Duncan Silver, FHWA Fred LaBar, USFS Mark Shaw, USFS Clark Ostergard, USFS Steve Flint, Audobon Society Gale Larson, Valley Engineering John Neil, UDOT Jim Naegle, UDOT Lynn Zollinger, UDOT Bill Helm Item 1 - Review of Minutes Duncan Silver suggested that the presentation of the roadway width data could be clearer. It is possible that someone could interpret it to mean an l8-foot pavement width, which is not the case. Item 2 - Draft Traffic Forecast Technical Memorandum A draft of the safety technical memorandum was distributed and Cliff Forsgren briefly explained the memorandum. The fundamental conclusion stated in the memorandum is that there are accidents occurring in Logan Canyon at a greater rate than the' average for similar roads in the state, but that the accidents are not generally serious. In the memorandum, it is recommended that during the alternative development portion of the study, safety related alternatives be considered at locations identified. Lynn Zollinger suggested that the original accident reports should be reviewed in order to better define the location and cause of the accidents. Duncan Silver suggested that it was probably not necessary to go into greater detail except for specific improvements. Duncan asked that a day/night breakdown of accidents be included in the memorandum. Bill Helm thought that it would be helpful to expand Table 6 to include the number of each type of accident (severity 1 through 5). Duncan also pointed out that roadway improvements to not often reduce the number of acci~e~ts, but will reduce the severity. 1 �( -Steve Flint asked what effect the latest safety improvements had on the accident rate. Duncan pointed out that since the safety project had been completed within the past few months, it -would not be possible to estimate the impact, with any degree of confidence, for 3 or 4 years. There was some discussion about the chevrons which had been placed to mark one particularly sharp curve, and whether they had improved the safety of that curve. No one was certain when the chevrons were installed so that question could not be answered at the meeting. Duncan also suggested that something be said about the number of accidents which may be occurring during peak traffic periods. Steve Flint asked for copies of the "quick list". Cliff will see that he gets copies. Item 3 - Review of Manual Traffic Counts The date of the first public information meeting was set for September 23, 1986. Duncan Silver suggested that we should take the opportunity at the meeting to ask questions. " "How long does it take you to get through the Canyon now?" "How much faster do you want to get through the Canyon?" "What are you willing to give up to get through that fast?" Bill Helm said that it might be helpful if there was an opportunity to discuss the types of improvements that might be necessary to upgrade the road or eliminate some problems. The public would then have an idea of what might happen if some types of improvements were implemented. The next ID team meeting was scheduled for September 22, 1986 at 3:00 p.m. at the District Office in Ogden. SLC-STN/03 ( 2 � Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Local URL The URL of the local directory containing all assets of the website <a href="http://digital.lib.usu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/highway89/id/4">http://digital.lib.usu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/highway89/id/4</a> Purchasing Information Describe or link to information about purchasing copies of this item. To order photocopies, scans, or prints of this item for fair use purposes, please see Utah State University's Reproduction Order Form at: <a href="https://library.usu.edu/specol/using/copies.php">https://library.usu.edu/specol/using/copies.php</a> Digital Publisher List the name of the entity that digitized and published this item online. Digitized by: Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library Date Digital Record the date the item was digitized. 2013 Conversion Specs Scanned by Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library using Epson Expression 10000 scanner, at 800 dpi. Archival file is PDF (800 dpi), display file is JPEG2000. Checksum 3185562639 File Size Size of the file in bytes. 1217099 Bytes Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Minutes from September 8, 1986 Interdisciplinary Team meeting Description An account of the resource Minutes from September 8, 1986 Interdisciplinary Team meeting. Review of minutes, draft traffic forecast technical memorandum, and manual traffic counts. Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Silver, Duncan LaBar, Fred Shaw, Mark Ostergard, Clark Flint, Steve Larson, Gale Neil, John Naegle, Jim Zollinger, Lynn Helm, Bill Nuffer, Stanton S. Forsgren, Clifford Subject The topic of the resource United States Highway 89 Roadside Improvement--Utah--Logan Canyon Traffic engineering Medium The material or physical carrier of the resource. Administrative records Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1986-09-08 Spatial Coverage Spatial characteristics of the resource. Utah United States Logan Canyon (Utah) Cache County (Utah) Temporal Coverage Temporal characteristics of the resource. 1980-1989 20th century Language A language of the resource eng Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Utah State University, Merrill-Cazier Library, Special Collections and Archives, Sierra Club, Utah Chapter Archives, 1972-1986, COLL MSS 148 Series VIII Box 27 Folder 2 Is Referenced By A related resource that references, cites, or otherwise points to the described resource. View the inventory for this collection at: <a href="http://uda-db.orbiscascade.org/findaid/ark:/80444/xv03390">http://uda-db.orbiscascade.org/findaid/ark:/80444/xv03390</a> Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Reproduction for publication, exhibition, web display or commercial use is only permissible with the consent of the USU Libraries Photograph Curator, phone (435) 797-0890. Is Part Of A related resource in which the described resource is physically or logically included. Highway 89 Digital Collections Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource application/pdf Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context MSS148VIIIB27_Fd2_Page_8.pdf Highway 89;